Personal Web Sharing

iHatePCs

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Hi, I'm connected to the internet wirelessly on my iBook through PPPoe. I am on a LAN with a Windows desktop. And I really want to set up Personal Web Sharing... Everytime I try to set it up under System Prefs. it gives me a link that says "http://localhost/" instead of something like "http://104.206.302.24/~User" Awhile ago I had it setup almost right.... but it said "http://10.0.1.3/~Brian" It worked on the Desktop and my laptop.... but not any of my friends computers.... I'm soo confused! Can somebody give me STEP BY STEP instructions... or maybe a website with a type of interface thats similiar to the "For Dummies" books... because I have no idea what a "DNS Server" or anything like that is... PLEASE HELP ME!!! :confused:
 

clayj

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OK, the first main thing you need to remember is that there are two kinds of IP addresses: Internal (within a company/home/organization), and external (out on the Internet). If your friends are outside of your company/home/organization (i.e., they're external), then an IP address that you use internally will not work for them UNLESS it's a valid external IP address.

For example, the machine I'm sitting at right now has an INTERNAL address of 192.168.1.101. That IP address is ONLY internal, however; it doesn't work for anyone else except me, and only within my organization. Other people may also have 192.168.1.101, but that address refers to a machine inside THEIR organization, not mine. My external address, for the sake of argument, is 17.100.200.1*; only if that address is reachable from the Internet (i.e., it's external) can someone use it to reach your machine. If I had my router configured to route incoming port 80 traffic (Web site traffic) to a machine inside my organization, then you could access my web site via 17.100.200.1.

So, the question is, where are your friends? If they're outside your organization, you will need to set up your web server and router so that the server is visible to the Internet. If you can't do this, you're out of luck.

DNS servers, BTW, are machines that translate Internet names (e.g., www.apple.com) into IP addresses (e.g., 17.1.1.1) so that programs know where to go.

Oh, and 10.x.y.z is NOT a valid Internet address, if I remember correctly. That's reserved for internal addresses ONLY. That may be why your friends can't access it.

* Not a real address, as far as I know.
 
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walkingmac said:
right on clayjohanson, something I use is DynDNS. This is great cause it (along with DNSUpdater app) automatically updates to your own free sub-domain. very nice.
Yeah, but you still have to expose your web site... for a home system protected by a router, this would involve forwarding all port 80 traffic to the machine that contains the actual web site. THAT means opening up your machine to potential attack... I'm not sure I would do that except with a dedicated machine that I could lock down. This is one reason why there are such things as servers. :)

It might be a better idea to rent space from a hosting company, and then upload your web site's files to their server. That way you don't have to worry about your machine getting hacked, and you know that your web site will be up and running 100% of the time.
 
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iHatePCs said:
Everytime I try to set it up under System Prefs. it gives me a link that says "http://localhost/" instead of something like "http://104.206.302.24/~User" Awhile ago I had it setup almost right.... but it said "http://10.0.1.3/~Brian"
Question: have you recently upgraded to 10.3.8? I, too, am getting this weird 'localhost' thing happening when it used to show my internal IP (10.0.1.x). localhost means nothing to another machine beyond itself. And I'm thinking this phenomenom starting appearing after my 10.3.8 upgrade. Anyone else also notice this new 'localhost' problem?
 
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iHatePCs

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dejo said:
Question: have you recently upgraded to 10.3.8? I, too, am getting this weird 'localhost' thing happening when it used to show my internal IP (10.0.1.x). localhost means nothing to another machine beyond itself. And I'm thinking this phenomenom starting appearing after my 10.3.8 upgrade. Anyone else also notice this new 'localhost' problem?
Yes I actually did upgrade... I think it probably is a problem with the upgrade because it hasnt happened to me before that. Before it actually said my IP Address... now it just says the localhost thing... anyone else having similar issues??? :confused:
 
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