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i am the one who started it and I am a student and I do Movie editing, transfer files larger than 5GB regularly and play back movies regurlarly off another computer. 802.11b is perfectly fine for internet usage but I do a lot more than that. I will only just be able to afford an iBook, let alone a PowerBook. I just don't see why Apple invest in lost causes. You can't even buy 802.11b base stations any more and Extreme cards only cose US $25 more than the normal ones. Extreme is a lot better value for money.

When do you guys think the iBooks will get a major upgrade? eg. new motherboard design, G4 etc.
 
Might as well close this thing, it can only get worse.

Already is starting to look like wasteland fertilizer.
 
Honestly, Apple views the ibook as consumer oriented, and most consumers don't need 54 mb/sec. In an effort to keep the cost down on the ibook and maybe clear out airport card stock, the used the old cards. I mean no budget oriented pc ships with 802.11G built in, so its understandable. I personally would rather see a PC card slot standard on all apple's laptop, so i could use a flash reader and people could us 802.11 A/B/G via a external card. That was on comprimise i made on my 12 incher, no pc card slot.
 
Originally posted by bradz_id
i am the one who started it and I am a student and I do Movie editing, transfer files larger than 5GB regularly and play back movies regurlarly off another computer. 802.11b is perfectly fine for internet usage but I do a lot more than that. I will only just be able to afford an iBook, let alone a PowerBook. I just don't see why Apple invest in lost causes. You can't even buy 802.11b base stations any more and Extreme cards only cose US $25 more than the normal ones. Extreme is a lot better value for money.

When do you guys think the iBooks will get a major upgrade? eg. new motherboard design, G4 etc.
trust me, you dont want to transfer 5gb over any wireless network, invest yourself in a crossover cable or a firewire cable and do target disk mode.

iJon
 
If you look at the Block Diagrams here , you'll see the different architecure used by the various machines.

Under Machine - Architecture - Block Diagrams

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It had been awhile since I'd looked at the Pangea-based machines, where Airport is tapped off the BootROM I/O port instead of the ATA connection like the KeyLargo machines.

OOoops.
 
Originally posted by rugby
I would like APE in my G4 MDD DP1ghz but it's not gonna happen.

The phrase of the day is ,"Deal with it."

You can easily get an 802.11g PCI card for your Powermac, the iBook has much more limited expandibility like with no PC Card slot and while that may be a good thing from one point of view (the iBook's included with everything, why should you even need a PC Card slot?) but then there comes this thing called Airport Extreme which is really the only big difference between the 12" Powerbook and the iBook (aside from the processor) so if you have an older iBook or even a brand new one, you're out of the loop because you can't upgrade.

Originally posted by QCassidy352


And if the ibooks got AE, really, what would the 12" PB have over it except for a G4? Bluetooth?

Sex appeal.

I've always seen the iBook as 'cute', it started off with all those colors, but then matured into the white model we see today which still doesn't look professional, it looks cute.

The Powerbook however (since the voluptuous curves of the Pismo) has always been sexy to me, if I could afford one, I'd buy it in an instant not just because of the extra functionality over my iBook, but because its a damn sexy piece of machinery.

The 12" Powerbook is a classic rev A machine, innovative and interesting, but off to a rough and quirky start, the lack of an L3 cache on the processor, some people have reported that the screen looks washed out compared to the iBook, just overall mixed reactions have come from it, its not a love-it-or-hate-it notebook, its somewhere inbetween.
I think by the time when it hits rev B, there will be enough differentiation between it and the iBook for the latter to accept Airport Extreme among other things..
 
Originally posted by bradz_id
i am the one who started it and I am a student and I do Movie editing, transfer files larger than 5GB regularly and play back movies regurlarly off another computer. 802.11b is perfectly fine for internet usage but I do a lot more than that. I will only just be able to afford an iBook, let alone a PowerBook. I just don't see why Apple invest in lost causes. You can't even buy 802.11b base stations any more and Extreme cards only cose US $25 more than the normal ones. Extreme is a lot better value for money.

When do you guys think the iBooks will get a major upgrade? eg. new motherboard design, G4 etc.
The wired solution is not as sexy, but iJon is correct.
 
Originally posted by bradz_id
i am the one who started it and I am a student and I do Movie editing, transfer files larger than 5GB regularly and play back movies regurlarly off another computer. 802.11b is perfectly fine for internet usage but I do a lot more than that. I will only just be able to afford an iBook, let alone a PowerBook. I just don't see why Apple invest in lost causes. You can't even buy 802.11b base stations any more and Extreme cards only cose US $25 more than the normal ones. Extreme is a lot better value for money.

When do you guys think the iBooks will get a major upgrade? eg. new motherboard design, G4 etc.

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http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11078938&m=488&cat=540&scat=1572

http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11180036&m=488&cat=540&scat=1572

http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11179119&m=488&cat=540&scat=1572
 
hey, it looks like my post on this got deleted, sorry if i stepped on any toes...

i just hate petitions, you know?

for some reason i love the iBook- had a first rev. tangerine, and now a 700MHz CDRW model... love 'em. I just wish FCP4 ran on it... now I'm going to have to upgrade... :(
 
I must reiterate my comments that the iBook is consumer and Airport extreme is Pro. I know I said that most homes that even have broadband have DSl or cable. It is true that some schools use faster connections. I work for a university and I can say a few things here.
1) wireless at ANY speed is still a pipedream. In some cases in some areas it does exist, but its just not widespread.
2) Most university or public school networks have 10/100 cabling. Often the actual speeds with traffic, hubs, routers, etc is barely above 15.
3)On the rare days where someone needs to transfer huge files, then acable should suffice.
I still think that the 'average' consumer will not need this. Of course, it cannot cost Apple a ton to put it in, but I think the answer lies in logic board design, power consumption and pro-line differentiation. In this economy I would love it if a school bought LAPTOPS, much less wireless ones. where i work a baseline mac is a G4 400 64 ram and 9.1 STILL!
In time I know Apple will migrate to APe for all, but not until its the defacto standard in all pro lines first.
 
The only thing I would like to see is a dvd-rom drive standard on the base model (or at least an option). What good is a laptop if you can't watch dvd movies? Not everybody needs a cd-rw on their laptop but the cost difference between dvd-rom and cd-rom is minimal. I don't want to spend the extra $300 for something I don't need. Charge me a $50 upgrade fee and I would still be happy.

I think I will start a petition..........anybody with me!


LOL
 
Originally posted by User X
The only thing I would like to see is a dvd-rom drive standard on the base model (or at least an option). What good is a laptop if you can't watch dvd movies? Not everybody needs a cd-rw on their laptop but the cost difference between dvd-rom and cd-rom is minimal. I don't want to spend the extra $300 for something I don't need. Charge me a $50 upgrade fee and I would still be happy.

I think I will start a petition..........anybody with me!


LOL
BTO option would be nice. Would undercut sales of the 900 though... and that is why it's not a option (IMO).
 
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