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iPod Petition for Apple to include Firewire support in next iPod video revision

i really hope apple isn't doing this because of 95% of ipod sales are going to peecee users. (% based on what i have heard on this board, not my own figure) because without the 5% mac users there would be no ipod.

get real apple- support your own loyal customer base first.
 
Lacero said:
Firewire component costs, let's say a dollar. If Apple is going to be selling 25 million iPods next year, that's $25,000,000 in their pockets. And 95% of iPod sales will go to PC users who do not care for FW.

My prediction: This firewire petition is pointless.
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it can't cost all that much more to implement. correct me if i am wrong, but look at all the revenue they will lose because people will not want to upgrade to 5g ipods because it doesn't have firewire.

my prediction: if nobody voices their opinions about this issue, then it will definately never get noticed.
sign the petition, if you even care about how the 5% will get treated in the future.
 
Where has my little firewire gone?

I have been a Mac user for some time and because of that I have a g4 that only has USB 1.0. The fact that these new Video iPods don't have firewire support frankly screws my plans on buying one. I can't afford to buy a new computer just for that thing but I would have bought the video iPod even if I had to buy the firewire cable. But more than just that I often use my current 2nd Gen 20gb model as a boot disk for Linux (though I am using that less and less with Tiger's Magic installed on my machine.) Anyway without firewire support my dreams of owning a video iPod are deader than the Norton.

Before I leave I would just like to commend everyone who has signed the petition with me. USB 2.0 must end now. Oh and while we are at it lets getting them to add firewire 800 support too I can't use it but it would be wicked fast. (Pipe dream I know but hey come on!!!)
 
watcher2001 said:
Someone else posted that you can still charge via firewire if you had the cable.. Is this not true? Oh BTW I signed your petition. Not really cause I need it, just to be helpful.
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Yeah, I knew you could still charge with firewire. But using USB actually DRAINS the iPod's battery during transfers. So anytime you want to sync, the iPod is running off it's own juice... Imagine if you had to sync a couple of CDs you just bought... Imagine syncing a few CDs that you just bought with USB 1.1! Thats probably what bothers me the most.
 
camomac said:
it can't cost all that much more to implement. correct me if i am wrong, but look at all the revenue they will lose because people will not want to upgrade to 5g ipods because it doesn't have firewire.

my prediction: if nobody voices their opinions about this issue, then it will definately never get noticed.
sign the petition, if you even care about how the 5% will get treated in the future.
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I hate to rain on your parade but i think this petition is useless. There are well over 5000 people who have signed a petition wanting gapless playback which should be a relativley trivial software solution to implement (especially if the use the bookmarks they already offer in podcasts).

I dont think that a few hundred people are going to make apple re-implement firewire which would take hardware major hardware changes and increase the cost to manufacture.
 
Do you vote?

NicP said:
I dont think that a few hundred people are going to make apple re-implement firewire which would take hardware major hardware changes and increase the cost to manufacture.
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With that attitude would anyone bother to vote on elections? It may be a hundred people now but that number is getting bigger all the time. The people who signed the petition now represent a lot more users who want this feature back in the iPod.
 
quayzar said:
Before I leave I would just like to commend everyone who has signed the petition with me. USB 2.0 must end now. Oh and while we are at it lets getting them to add firewire 800 support too I can't use it but it would be wicked fast. (Pipe dream I know but hey come on!!!)
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USB 2.0 must end now? So you want the tiniest flash drives to be double or triple their current size? You want to kiss mice and keyboards goodbye? You think printers and scanners and digital cameras are overrated? Maybe you don't like syncing with cell phones and PDAs. These are all things that would NEVER adopt Firewire.

And adding Firewire 800 wouldn't make the iPod any faster than it is with FW400. The iPods hard drive isn't fast enough to feed that data.

camomac said:
it can't cost all that much more to implement. correct me if i am wrong, but look at all the revenue they will lose because people will not want to upgrade to 5g ipods because it doesn't have firewire.
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Hmmm....what revenue are they losing to those people? Almost nothing. A fraction of 1% of the market is on your side, buddy. Meanwhile, 90%+ would not buy if it was Firewire-only.

my prediction: if nobody voices their opinions about this issue, then it will definately never get noticed.
sign the petition, if you even care about how the 5% will get treated in the future.
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It's not 5%. It's at most 1%. And nothing in the world makes 100% of people happy. Engineers, designers, and consumers HAVE voiced their opinion on the matter. And that, my friend, is WHY Firewire is gone.

Like Lacero said. It's 100-odd against millions and counting.
 
If Apple wants to grow to the next level, they have to cater to Windows users and offer them some of the great Apple products.

The Windows market can make Apple a lot more money than Mac users can.

Innovation means leaving the past behind, in this case it means buying a newer computer with USB2.

In the case of the dual core PowerMac -- it means buying all new PCI Express cards.

For the thousands that get pissed at Apple because they cannot use the latest widget -- there are a lot more Windows user willing to take their place an buy the latest USB2 widget.

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Basically, sometimes progress will cost you money and obsolete equipment on you desk newer than your underwear.
 
Sol said:
With that attitude would anyone bother to vote on elections? It may be a hundred people now but that number is getting bigger all the time. The people who signed the petition now represent a lot more users who want this feature back in the iPod.
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so do the people who want gapless, and the gapless problem has been around ever since the introduction of the ipod and they still havent done anything about it.

I have no idea how this relates to elections, when you vote your 1 vote gets counted. When you sign a petition theres a good possibility that whoever the petition is aimed at will ignore it alltogether, they arent sitting there in their office going when the petition gets 5000 signitures we will add the feature.

If you want to let apple know you want a feature tell them! online petitions are pretty useless, theres no guarantee they will take it seriously or even see it for that matter!

edit: living in australia you should know that voting is compulsory anyway ;)
 
I am all for firewire support being included again, but one must think about how that affects the design of the iPod and how thin apple is able to make it.

Other than that...firewire all the way.
 
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