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People aren't asking for Blu-Ray anymore because they gave up, not because people don't want it.
 
People ... stop talking about bitrate. Bitrate does correlate to quality, but only when comparing files in the exact same format. Comparing the file size of a blu-ray movie to the file size of an iTunes movie doesn't make sense. It's like saying Laser Discs are better than DVDs because they are bigger.

Wake me up when iTunes offers multi-language lossless 5.1 PCM bitstream the least. Then we may start talking again. Microsoft at least offers 5.1 Dolby Digital on Zune - but this still is nothing compared to the Blu experience.

So paying more for a less quality format just that I can use it in the Apple ecosystem is simply wrong. And streaming doesn't cut it. I still rather go to my brick&mortar outlet to rent Blus (3 discs for 7 € for 2 days) than rent a so called ZuneHD or iTunesHD rental for 4.99€ the least (one movie).
 
There are plenty of external BR on the market, are you forbiden to buy something not made by Apple?

You take a horrible chance if you try to plug in some unknown thingamajig into your Mac. You might brick it.

Of course, the kind of people who do that will go to the Genius Bar and claim "I can't imagine what happened! It just stopped working!" and try to get it replaced for free! That costs all of us a lot of money. It is not fair.

Your best bet for seamless interchangeability is to stick to the Apple Ecosystem exclusively. With any thing else, you are hurting the entire Apple community.
 
People aren't asking for Blu-Ray anymore because they gave up, not because people don't want it.

Was never asked for it, saturation is still too low for many people to use it.


People still buy more DVD's then Blu Ray


Keep hanging on to physical media, its a dead medium, the only holdout is broadband speeds and greedy cable operators
 
Apple is right. They don't make any money when people buy BluRay discs, but they can make money when people get their content from iTunes.

BluRay is a big bag of hurt. People are better off getting everything from Apple - it is one-stop shopping. That way, Apple can provide the very best User Experience, and customers can get the best quality instantly. Win/Win.

Wow, you paraphrased Jobs' famous quote. You didn't copied it exactly. You are almost creative, almost original.
 
I only use DVD's in rare occasions. But I have to say that I've tried installing Windows 8 with a USB on my 2011 iMac.. And have had no luck so far..

So It'll be interesting to see how users plan on installing a OS without the DVD drive.. Especially since there is no way to natively boot a different OS using a USB drive..
 
I'm not sure I'd call burning 3TB over 639 different discs convenient. What if you need to recover it all? Are you really going to want to sit there feeding hundreds of DVDs into a computer to get your data back? Or what if your binder is stolen or damaged?

Just get some external storage. For a couple hundred bucks you could have that 3TB on two duplicate drives. If you store one of them off site you'll be in excellent shape to never lose your data for a minimal outlay of cash.

Haha I'd agree with you on the convenience, but I do have the binders safely offsite and I've only had to use a handful to restore from hard drive problems. I do have external storage drives like you said, but I still have hard copies anyway. Its my life's work and photography and I don't want to trust all that on any hard drive. Look at the feedback on any brand of external drive... nobody seems to make one we can really trust. Maybe that makes me old fashioned, but I have yet to lose a file. (knock on wood)

What I do have is actually 2 external drives with all my work duplicated and a binder full of discs. Problem solved. Recovery is fast on most problems as I only need to migrate from one external to the other, but I have the discs archived anyway and some have come in handy. I'm never fully confident of any hard drives- external or internal. I've had external failures from WD, Lacie, G-tech and Seagate in the last 10 years... last failure was the P.O.S. internal Seagate drive on my 27 i7 imac- it failed a few months ago.

If cloud storage wasn't so ridiculously expensive for large amounts, it would be my first choice.....
 
Blu-ray authoring

I migrated to Adobe Premiere Pro because Apple gave up on DVDSP and never embraced blu-ray. There was a previous post about iMovie bringing a lot of people to the Mac because they could edit their home movies (and make DVD's). Back in the day Apple even had commercials about authoring special events on iMovie and iDVD. The whole world hasn't embraced youtube (certainly not for home movies) and, or certainly not iTunes (for home movie or business purposes).

I simply don't understand this issue with Apple about not adopting blu-ray. It will make the company money. It will make computer users happy.
 
I migrated to Adobe Premiere Pro because Apple gave up on DVDSP and never embraced blu-ray. There was a previous post about iMovie bringing a lot of people to the Mac because they could edit their home movies (and make DVD's). Back in the day Apple even had commercials about authoring special events on iMovie and iDVD. The whole world hasn't embraced youtube (certainly not for home movies) and, or certainly not iTunes (for home movie or business purposes).

I simply don't understand this issue with Apple about not adopting blu-ray. It will make the company money. It will make computer users happy.

You would have to embrace it company wide

Half their line now has no optical at all. Why in the world would they integrate a legacy medium?
 
I don't get it. These days, most people either use the ODD very rarely or not at all.

Maybe in your world, but not in mine. I work with clients in a variety of fields. Optical media is far from dead. It has several advantages:

- Can be made read only.
- Inexpensive
- HD with AVCHD
- Ubiquitous
- Can post music extracts from a cd for use with photos on Facebook.
Try this with iTunes music, it gets pulled in a few minutes.
- Heavily used in Education, Law, Medicine (MRI's), Museums, Churches
- Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Office, available only on DVD.

Clients don't care about the thin edge on a desktop, they care about a clean desktop. Additional cables don't make for a clean desktop.
 
If you're not watching new films on blu-ray you are missing out far more than you think.
I agree- for some films- streaming quality can be tolerated. You just want to watch the film to kill a night.
But if it's a film you're really looking forward to- Blu ray kicks.

comparing side by side is key.
If you just view a stream- it looks pretty good and you will accept it.
It's when you then fire up the uncompressed blu ray that will give WOW factor.

I buy and then re-sell on Amazon. The difference I pay to watch best quality is usually the cost of a download. Well worth it IMO.

I don't understand why this isn't what every one has latched on to. Buy a CD, bang it on iTunes, sell it on eBay. HQ, official music and all that. Same for a DVD/Blue-Ray. Costs about the same as a download initially then you get back a few quid at the end.
 
I recently picked up the "Back to the Future" trilogy on blu ray that included codes for iTunes but, to utilize the codes, I had to insert a data dvd because the movie was included on the DVD. This is the first time I picked up a blu ray/dvd that included a digital copy of the movie.

Is this how they all are? If so, how will we redeem digital copies in the future if they require you to insert the dvd into the computer if we lack an optical drive?

Exactly what I am wondering. I haven't read all the posts, any answer yet?
 
People ... stop talking about bitrate. Bitrate does correlate to quality, but only when comparing files in the exact same format. Comparing the file size of a blu-ray movie to the file size of an iTunes movie doesn't make sense. It's like saying Laser Discs are better than DVDs because they are bigger.

This post is pretty ridiculous. First of all, bitrate is probably the most important thing when comparing encodes. Yes, some formats are more efficient than others, but Blu-ray is h.264, and so are Apple TV encodes. Plus your wrong about LaserDisc vs DVD since LD contained uncompressed audio, and dvd's have crappy ac3 encoding. At least know what you're talking about if you're going to claim you know everything.
 
Oh, and since I'm "living in the past" I went ahead and got a second hand Superdrive for my upcoming iMac, so you don't get any additional revenue from that. Call me a ticked off share holder!

You did the right thing. If you later get a Retina MBP or Mac Mini or MacBook Air, or even another iMac, you won't need to acquire another SuperDrive, because you will already have one.


But your post made me smile. "I can't believe you charge $3 for a small popcorn! That's what a large used to cost. If you charged $3 for a large I'd have bought a large, but at these prices I will only be getting a small. Let that be a lesson to you."

The powers that be at apple will be happier with your purchase of an iMac than thy will be unhappy at your buying a used SuperDrive.
 
This post is pretty ridiculous. First of all, bitrate is probably the most important thing when comparing encodes. Yes, some formats are more efficient than others, but Blu-ray is h.264, and so are Apple TV encodes. Plus your wrong about LaserDisc vs DVD since LD contained uncompressed audio, and dvd's have crappy ac3 encoding. At least know what you're talking about if you're going to claim you know everything.

LOL

Many Blu Rays use MPEG Encoding and have worse quality then iTunes HD version (Groundhog Day is an example)
 
Why do people keep posting in Blu-ray threads if they have no interest in Blu-ray ? Do people really think Apple needs to take "something" away to give users proper blu-ray support ?

Because it's taking resources away from other things that need attention. Mac OS has not been given the proper resources with iOS more in the spotlight. I realize Apple has a ton of money and pretty much could do Blu-ray support for a fraction of what cash they have, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to voice their opinion of not caring. I think physical media is dead, and while I wouldn't be mad at all if Apple did do something with Blu-ray, I think it's a waste of time at this point, and they were probably right pushing file based media.
 
I for one need to burn dvds with data (e.g. physical backup of photos). Not often, but on occasion.
I don't think I am significantly away from any average consumer.
As for Blue Ray I can't say (I don't even watch dvds at all, so in that respect I am in the tail of the gaussian.)

And if "you can have it external" then it does misses the point of the sleekness factor.

Absolute sleekness, yes. But I have a Sony external CD/DVD/Blu-Ray burner/reader that's not much bigger than the Apple external DVD (which is about as small as something that encloses the media can be). It's only bigger because it's drawer rather than slot feed. Together with the "Mac Blu-Ray Player", it's played a number of Blu-Ray movies for me well enough on the Mac...if with an occasional pause that might not be there with a dedicated hardware...although my early dedicated hardware also does that sometimes.

Not sure about _burning_ BD's (either data or video). I may need additional software for that.
 
Because I'm not a movie buff an there are plenty of true HD channels on cablevision. I have no need to own physical disks, nor do I want to.

Agreed, Apple TV streams all the movies I make and all the movies I buy. I have Vimeo in HD, MLB in HD and NBA in HD.


I prefer 10 second load times over 1 minute for some blu rays (using a PS3)
 
Saturation is still too low for many people to use it.

Latest statistics that I have found:

About 42 million U.S. households have one or more Blu-ray Disc players. That means more than one-third of U.S. homes can watch Blu-ray movies.
 
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Shut up and take my money!
 
Take that out to 10-20 times longer, and you're looking at 20-60 years. What was the back-up medium 10 years ago? Tape. What was the back-up medium 60 years ago? Paper.

Find me a tape drive which you can install in your current system that supports a 20 year-old tape format. If you're *lucky*, you'll find an internal port which ran off a floppy port, and be able to find a floppy-to-USB adapter that you can scavenge from an old USB floppy drive. Then you'll run into the issue of finding drivers to let your computer use the device.

Do you expect to be able to find a Blu-Ray compatible drive 20+ years from now? If you can, do you expect your computer then to have drivers to support it?
As a matter of fact... yes.

I mean, after all, all the Blu Ray players out there also read CDs (30+ years old) and CD-Rs (20+ years old). Nearly any company serious about archiving for the long term has been using archival optical media. I can pretty much guarantee there will be Blu-Ray compatible drives 20, 30, maybe even 50 years from now.
 
Latest statistics that I have found:

About 42 million U.S. households have one or more Blu-ray Disc players. That means more than one-third of U.S. homes can watch Blu-ray movies.

2/3 can't


Almost all them have some sort of device to watch video though (computer, phone, Tablet)
 
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