Phil Schiller Says iPad Pro Can Both Supplement and Replace the Mac

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    Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller believes the iPad Pro can be both a PC replacement and a supplementary device to the Mac.

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    In a wide-ranging interview with T3 about the iPad Pro and other Apple products, including the iPhone X, iMac Pro, HomePod, and AirPods, Schiller said the iPad Pro's exact use case ultimately varies by customer.
    Schiller added that, for many customers, the iPad Pro becomes their primary computing device, especially while traveling.
    Schiller acknowledged that this isn't the case for everyone, as some customers may only use an iPad Pro for certain tasks where a tablet can provide a better experience, such as reading or watching movie and TV shows.
    Schiller referred to the iPad Pro as a computer on a few occasions, which contrasts with Apple's latest "What's a Computer?" ad for the tablet.


    At the end of the video, a mother asks her young daughter "what are you doing on your computer?" and the daughter responds by asking "what's a computer?" to imply that the iPad Pro is not a computer.

    While the ad might suggest Apple's increasing focus on the iPad over the Mac, Schiller ensured that the company "cares deeply" about its pro customers. "We love that so much is created on Mac," he said.

    To address the needs of those professionals, Apple is launching a powerful iMac Pro this week. The company is also working on a modular Mac Pro that will be accompanied by Apple-branded pro displays.

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    The lack of a pointer interface on iPad means that it will never replace a computer for me.
     
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    I use my iPad Pro 10.5 for school for nearly 90% of what I need, but the other 10% is vital to keep my MBP around so his assessment is spot on. I think Apple has definitely made big strides with iOS 11 on the iPad productivity side too and makes even more compelling as an every day all around device.
     
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    Would buy an iPad if i could also connect a mouse.

    The most amazing thing would be if the iPad could display a Mac OS X light kind of interface optimized for use at a desk with mouse and keyboard.
     
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    Let me know when iOS allows for multiple users to sign in to a single device. Until then, this is a poor replacement for a computer.
     
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    My phone is my primary computing device lol.

    But seriously, I’d say my usage is about 60% iPad and 40% Mac
     
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    Phil, seriously? When I can't even open a webpage like on a computer while I have already requested the desktop site?
     
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    Phil in Marketing mode.

    Nothing more.

    If an iPad could replace a computer, you didn't need a computer in the first place.
     
  11. gugy macrumors 68040

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    Sorry Phil, the iPad cannot hold a candle to the Mac. Two total different devices.
    While I can do some "work" on the iPad. As a graphics designer the Mac is the king. No discussion there.
     
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    I hate that commercial and that kid...i bet she's thee type get easily triggered by any comment...kids today.
     
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    Neither would you want to, today. It would be a horrid experience.
     
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    Mouse is not so much important in iOS world, but mouse needs to be allowed in third party apps. I actually believe it, citrix app I think allows it, but it is not mainstream. Remote desktop needs to have mouse available. I remote into my virtual desktop work computer from my personal mac anyway. I would love to be able to login into my servers/vdi from a mac and using a mouse.
     
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    great visionary .... dude we need powerful computers to do real stuff !!
     
  17. GabrielMoro macrumors member

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    It sure can replace the MacBook. But not in a "Pro" way. The device shouldn't be labeled "Pro", because it isn't. You can't do any proper 3D modeling, powerful video editing (with Final Cut Pro), use multiple professional apps at the same time intuitively... But I do believe they could achieve this if they worked hard enough. Focus on great apps, add the OPTION of using it like you would use a Mac. Then it is a computer.
     
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    If I had xCode on my iPad I probably wouldn’t touch my MBP again.
     
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    There are a few important things which are not technical, but Apple Policy that is preventing people to use iPad as laptop replacements.
    1. Application Walled garden: For my phone and dedicated mobile devices, this isn't a big deal as the large number of apps do what I would on the device. However on my Laptop I will want to do some more computational things, such as programming, system administration, and working with new software.

    2. Single User interface: I may want to share the device with others with different settings and history. Also I sometimes make myself different accounts to test different things.

    3. Long term support for apps: I have a handful of apps which will not work in iOS 11. I don't know why and I don't care, If I downloaded them and paid for them I should be able to use them.

    There are also some technical reasons such as long high CPU usage. Speed and upgradability.
     
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    And this is exactly why the iPad will always be a deal breaker for my parents.
     
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    Hopefully, no more OS developers will be deducted from macOS to iOS.
     
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    Okay now that I got that out of my system, if you look at his actual words it’s all marketing doublespeak and he’s not really committing himself or Apple one way or another. People like me who can replace a desktop with an iPad Pro will hear that part of what he said and agree. People who need a full computer for their workflow will nod and agree with that part of it. For once he hedged well enough not to dig himself into a hole.
     
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    Front-end web developer and sometimes full-stack dev here. No way. I work for a huge airline on their front-facing site, and there's no way I can do my work on an iPad outside of email and mobile web testing.

    That being said, I work on a Macbook Pro at work and at home, and it's wonderful. Until iPads can run full-scale developer tools like Eclipse/intelliJ, debug a web server running on the same iPad, etc... I don't see it being viable from a software development perspective. It'd be slick as hell though if I could "work from beach" on an iPad with a keyboard... but I think we're probably 5-10 years from that dream unless I go through the awkward hassle of virtuals, VM, remote desktop, etc.

    Maybe if you're an administrative assistant that sends emails, answers calls, and uses Word?
     
  24. Dave245 macrumors 604

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    The iPad Pro can replace a laptop for some of the everyday people, for example my dad who uses my old 2015 iPad Pro now that I’ve upgraded to the 2017 version, he uses it to check and write emails, Facebook, FaceTime, browsing the web, buying things from Amazon and so on, for him it’s replaced his old and rubbish Acer laptop. For people such as myself who still love the Mac and both write a lot and edit a little (especially if you use Final Cut X) it won replace a Mac.

    I don’t think the iPad Pro needs to replace a Mac, there is room for both, I certainly love to use both my iMac, iPad Pro and my MacBook Pro, they all serve different purposes.
     
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    That is certainly a more sound argument. It depends on the user. For some, it's their primary computer. For others, including myself, it compliments the Mac. This is the slant I hope they continue to take: Primary for some, secondary for others.

    This is one of the most sound interviews Schiller has given this year (along with early April's Mac discussion), and it actually makes me understand what Apple are trying to do. The blatant hype-speak is obnoxious, but when this is tempered with actual observations, usage and results I will give them my ear. Yes, he's a high mucky muck in marketing and will say things to incite (as he has with me), and attempt to get folks to buy the products and services - that is his job. But reading more balanced less hyped pieces like this make me more interested in what he is discussing and trying to sell.

    I do not think I'd be so hard on Apple's company talk if they gave more interviews like this. Through weighted conversation I learn a lot more about the products. That helps me decide whether I want to try, and/or buy instead of immediately turning me off.
     

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