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Philips has announced Hue 3.0 for iOS and Android, a major update to the smart lighting system app that introduces a new-look interface, new scene options, and a redesigned color picker.

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"In designing the upgrade, we took advice from lighting designers, user experience specialists and, most importantly, from our customers," said Philips Lighting marketing chief Jasper Vervoort. "The result is an app befitting the world's most loved smart lighting system for the home."
The new interface allows Hue owners to change the brightness, color, and shade of white of individual lights, and includes more convenient shortcuts for adjusting lights in fewer taps. For example, pressing and holding on a room setup or individual lights lets you change the color or set your four last used scenes.

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The new color picker lets you group and ungroup lights in a room, and choose an exact shade of white or colored light from the palette. The app also comes with 30 new scenes, as well as a much-requested picture-to-light feature that lets you extract relevant colors from your favorite pictures and apply them to your lights.

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Elsewhere, the app includes lighting routines to automatically dim lights at night and gradually turn them on in the morning, while the location awareness feature means lights can be set to turn on when the owner arrives at home or turn off when they leave. Meanwhile, the timer function activates lights after a specified time by triggering a scene or simply flashing the lights.

Philips hasn't given an exact release date for the Hue 3.0 update, which is said to be coming "this month", but there's a good chance it could begin rolling out as soon as today. [Direct Link]

Article Link: Philips Hue 3.0 App Update Brings Overhauled Interface, Picture-to-Light Feature, and 30 New Scenes
 

northernmunky

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Now all we need is a higher capacity bridge. 50 lights isn’t enough anymore especially when the landscape lights arrive.

At £50 a bulb, you must be loaded!

Ugh, If only I didn't have to give up my physical light switches.

Who says you have to give them up? You're meant to leave them on and control them from your phone. Or Siri. Or Alexa. If you really want to turn them off at the switch then do that.
 
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hagar

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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.
 
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Mike MA

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Reliable and easy to use app. My main whish though would have been a decreased launch time, especially when still running in the background. Yet re-establishing contact to the bridge just takes too long.
 
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Philips has announced Hue 3.0 for iOS and Android, a major update to the smart lighting system app that introduces a new-look interface, new scene options, and a redesigned color picker.

Hue-app-3-0-scenes-800x465.jpg
The new interface allows Hue owners to change the brightness, color, and shade of white of individual lights, and includes more convenient shortcuts for adjusting lights in fewer taps. For example, pressing and holding on a room setup or individual lights lets you change the color or set your four last used scenes.

philips-hue-3.0-800x450.jpeg


The new color picker lets you group and ungroup lights in a room, and choose an exact shade of white or colored light from the palette. The app also comes with 30 new scenes, as well as a much-requested picture-to-light feature that lets you extract relevant colors from your favorite pictures and apply them to your lights.

philips-hue-app-update-color-pickers-800x450.jpg

Elsewhere, the app includes lighting routines to automatically dim lights at night and gradually turn them on in the morning, while the location awareness feature means lights can be set to turn on when the owner arrives at home or turn off when they leave. Meanwhile, the timer function activates lights after a specified time by triggering a scene or simply flashing the lights.

Philips hasn't given an exact release date for the Hue 3.0 update, which is said to be coming "this month", but there's a good chance it could begin rolling out as soon as today. [Direct Link]

Article Link: Philips Hue 3.0 App Update Brings Overhauled Interface, Picture-to-Light Feature, and 30 New Scenes
[doublepost=1525786326][/doublepost]Thank God, it's about time they update that piece of crap software. I love the HUE and what it can do but the App is irritating. And lately my bedroom light has been acting up and turning on a few seconds after I told Siri to turn it off. It's annoying when you are trying to sleep!
 
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DaveTheRave

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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.
It’s stories like his that stop me from getting more home automation stuff. I’m tech savvy and a bit patient with it. But when you have a family and they don’t know/ don’t care how it works and only want to use a switch, then it becomes a problem.

I feel like the whole family has to be onboard for some of this, or you need to be single so no one else can mess with your automation because they shut off the light using the sword and not the app, etc.
 
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RedGala

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I hope my Nanoleaf Aurora app gets a cool overhaul. Loving the rounded edges, gradients, and vibrant views.
 
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jhudgins

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I’ve been contemplating Philips Hue...but I’m really sensitive to noise. Do their lights buzz at all? I read this is a common problem with led, especially the dimmable bulbs/leds.
 
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Remy149

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Ugh, If only I didn't have to give up my physical light switches.
You don’t have to I bought a Phillips hue dimmer switch for each room and put light switch stoppers on the existing switches
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I’ve been contemplating Philips Hue...but I’m really sensitive to noise. Do their lights buzz at all? I read this is a common problem with led, especially the dimmable bulbs/leds.
I’ve never noticed any sound
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It’s stories like his that stop me from getting more home automation stuff. I’m tech savvy and a bit patient with it. But when you have a family and they don’t know/ don’t care how it works and only want to use a switch, then it becomes a problem.

I feel like the whole family has to be onboard for some of this, or you need to be single so no one else can mess with your automation because they shut off the light using the sword and not the app, etc.
I placed Phillips hue dimmer switch in each room yes it’s an added cost but I did one room at a time
 
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vipergts2207

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I was fortunate enough to snag a bunch of Lutron Connected Bulb Remotes before they were discontinued, so I didn't have to give up the ability to use physical light switches. Being forced to do so would've been a non-starter. Philips needs to get it together and come out with a remote that fits inside a standard decora wall plate opening. Putting one of their stupid, oversized remotes on the wall next the switch gang boxes is not an aesthetically satisfactory solution to me.
 
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campingsk8er

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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.

They must be a gimmick for you, but for me and my single level, 3 bed, 2 bath house, and garage, it's perfect. Replaced 90% of all the light fixtures with smart lights (mostly hue, a couple other brands). The only lights we haven't changed is one kitchen light and the garage light cause they use those long tube lights. The most heavily used areas, we installed the quick touch switches. The HomePod is amazing. Have it in the living room. One of our scenes is "I'm Home" and it turns on the hallway lights, living room lights, and the kitchen lights. "Going to Bed" turns all lights to dim, and the master lights on. "Hey Siri, Goodnight" works perfect cause I lay down in bed, I can see getting into bed, and then when I'm ready, the lights go off.

You definitely have to think about the set up and have it work for you. The HomePod really makes it a lot more convenient, especially for my boyfriend who uses android, cause now he can use all the scenes too.
 
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Remy149

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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.
You could have used the Phillips hue dimmer switches
 
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campingsk8er

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It’s stories like his that stop me from getting more home automation stuff. I’m tech savvy and a bit patient with it. But when you have a family and they don’t know/ don’t care how it works and only want to use a switch, then it becomes a problem.

I feel like the whole family has to be onboard for some of this, or you need to be single so no one else can mess with your automation because they shut off the light using the sword and not the app, etc.

What you do is get the cheap, light switch covers. They are like $5 for a pack of two from Lowes. It's great for training everyone too, as even I kept accidentally turning the lights off.
 
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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.

It's not that hard. Just get the $25 Hue Switch and then some $5 light switch covers from Amazon (4 pack)
 
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DinamiteBla

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Hi all,
been reading Macrumors for ages, but this is my first message. Please excuse any mistake, I'm not English (Italian, actually).

I believe that every bit of automation inside our living spaces should disappear quickly after installation and become transparent, or something is wrong. This is precisely why I choose HUE over other products: because I could substitute my old bulbs and not change the normal everyday behaviour of my family.

Other might have different needs, but for me HUE bulbs were purchased to be able to lower the power usage and be able to give a bit of color to my rooms in particular moments. When you watch a movie, for instance, or when the kid goes to sleep. But for the majority of the time I was seeking the behaviour of a “normal bulb”. One that I switch on and gives me a natural white light, and that I can switch off as I’ve been doing for all my life, without the need to access an app adding a layer of complexity to this simple task. HUE does exactly that, if you want: it can work as a normal light because 90% of the time I don’t need fancy colors/scenes or to pick the phone/tablet or talk to Siri/etc. When I’m just passing by at night to go to the kitchen/bathroom, what I need is to switch the light on. In other cases (I have some bulbs outside in the backyard), I keep everything on and program “lights on 100% at dusk”, then “20% warmer light at midnight” and finally a complete switch off at sunrise. Other bulbs, for instance, seem to remember the last setting used, and then you might have to use the app more often to get what you need, that would be terrible for me.

But apart from the first days, when you have a new toy to explore and you spend hours in the app and testing things, these smart things as I said earlier should disappear and should not ask any management by the user, other than to activate some specific scenes when needed. As my Netatmo thermostat did: I put it on, I’ve been playing with it a lot for some days, but now it manages itself, and that should be the whole point of automation. I remember it’s there when the system sends me the monthly energy balance and if and when the sensor in the living room measure an increased level of CO2.

But that’s my usage, other needs may vary, of course, and I can see that people with bigger houses might find useful to be able to control everything from an app, or a set of smart switches. I have a couple of dimmer switches and a Tap myself configured with the scenes we use the most. But I wouldn’t say the need to give up physical light switches is necessarily a showstopper, in my case it was the opposite, actually.
 
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Gaspode67

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Let's clear up a couple of points. You can still use your physical switches to switch Hue lights on & off. The only thing is that if you physically switch the lights off, you can't remotely switch them back on (there's no power going to them!).

As for the updates to the App, some of the functionality is already in the current (2.19.1 version) of the App for Android. I already have my bedside light set up so it gradually switches on at 5:55am, reaching my requested "full" brightness 20mins later, and if I wanted to I can already set the reverse action in the evening. I can also set a home location and allow it to switch on the lights in the living room when I've been out and get home, or switch off the lights when I leave the house.
 
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dannys1

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I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights). We even tried working with Eve Sensors, but it was still a hassle. Smart switches make much more sense than smart lights.

We set them to only switch on when there's movement after dark, but then we wouldn't have enough lighting on darker days, or when we set the lights to always come on when there's someone, then the lights would often be on unnecessary.

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.

At the moment (and for the last two years) I've use SmartThings to fully automate everything. HomeKit is only any good for using Siri, SmartThings if you want to actually automate your home. I just replaced the switches with Philips Hue switches, been perfect for two years (and they automatically switch on/off when the room nit brightness reaches specific levels)
 
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CarpalMac

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My whole house is kitted with hue bulbs now and the awful software has been my biggest gripe. It is / was awful and painfully limited.

Hopefully now it's quality will start to reflect the high cost of the hardware.

The light switch thing is funny - a guy I was talking to the other day moaned about how his Hue bulbs stopped working when he turned lights off at the switch. I asked him what exactly he expected to happen? When you cut off the electrical feed to an electronic device, there usually is only one result...

We use echo dots and motion sensors as we roam the house now, light switches practically feel like manual labour!
 
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Sean006

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I use these every day-- i have the hue bulb in one of my end table lamps....then i have the led strip mounted around the backside of my TV

they both come on at a certain time and shut off at a certain time....plus i love that i can change the brightness-on/off and color remotely.

but like others have said the hue app does need a refresh

lately i just use the home kit app
 
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Ugh, If only I didn't have to give up my physical light switches.

I mounted my Hue Dimmer Switches right by my 'dumb' switches. Works like a charm. Now that Home can program the buttons, I have Full On > Scene > Scene > off. Easy peasy.

I don't get it. Might be cool in a new house with smart switches, but in an existing house, it's just a pain. We removed our Hue lights because it's so annoying that you can't use the switches anymore (as you would turn off the smart lights).

I redid my entire apartment with Hue aside from the kitchen with it's florescents as well as my ex's house. The only pain was the upfront cost (and her garbage Wifi that she refused to address).

Even turning the lights off was far too complicated. HomeKit does allow a timeout to dimm lights when there's no movement, but that just resulted in us waving our hands during dinner. Automations also don't bring a solution. For instance, turning all lights of after midnight resulted in people sitting in the dark sometimes. Or lights burning while there was no-one around. Currently HomeKit is far too limited and not at all smart. Nothing beats a simple wall switch. At the moment, smart lights are a gimmick.

So... hitting a button you've programmed to 'off' is too hard? "Hey Siri, Good Night" is too hard? As I stated above, I saw the need for physical controls (albeit only in two locations) and I bought Hue Dimmer switches. Simple. And it handily beats a simple (minded) wall switch. Frankly, aside from changing my scenes for specific reasons, once I set my automations up (which consist of a sunrise and a sunset automation), I really don't have to bother with it.

What is it exactly that you expect HomeKit to do, read your mind? Predict the future? Do you want Siri to know that you're going to be up too late or eating too late, before you're up to late or eating too late?
 
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