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It's not possible to use standard dimmer switches with Hue bulbs. They don't like it. You need to control the brightness of the bulbs using the Hue app, or using HomeKit (Home on Mac, etc).
I have the Hue Dimmer Switch, I imagine it should work well with Hue bulbs.
 
From the Product-Website:

Do I need a neutral wire?
The Philips Hue Wall Switch Module is powered by a coin cell battery that is expected to last at least five years. Therefore, the module does not need its own power supply and consequently also no neutral wire. This also made it possible to reduce the size of the module.


So, additionally, to restarting your network from time to time, in case your lamps and switches are not responding, you have to find and change the batteries in your wall switches? There already are cables with electric power. Sure, it would make the device itself bigger and more expensive. But WT*? Don't get it.
If you have an older home like mine (built in 1980), you may not have a neutral wire. This means that when the switch is in the off position, there is no electricity running through it. In this case, once you turn the light off, the switch goes completely powerless and there is no way to turn it back on (unless you do so manually). It's why most wifi switches need a neutral wire to function.
 
Except for the light bulb flicker...
I have three (of nine) hue bulbs now showing slight flicker. I can suppress it (mostly) by running them at 90% rather than 100% brightness, but I don't consider this acceptable.
I won't be buying any more bulbs. Which is a shame, because Hue are indeed (including their smart buttons, motion detector, and smart socket) pretty reliable.
This is almost certainly a problem with your home's wiring and not the bulbs themselves. I have well over 50 bulbs and none of them have this problem - unless there is a power problem to the bulb (rare - mostly on circuits with old style dimmers I haven't yet replaced).
 
crazy prices. Will they at least expose the switches in HomeKit so they can be used for other devices than Hue lights?
And why is this thing battery powered??
 
crazy prices. Will they at least expose the switches in HomeKit so they can be used for other devices than Hue lights?
And why is this thing battery powered??
They are compatible only with Hue bulbs.

There is a battery because otherwise the circuit needs a neutral wire (rare in older houses) or needs a more complicated (bulky, expensive) design to leak current to power the switch.

If you want something more flexible, use the previously mentioned Shelly relays.
 
In the US at least, neutral wires at switches weren't required by most electrical codes until the 1980's so most houses built prior to that requirement, including my 1979 ranch, don't have neutrals at the switch. I'd love wired smart switches, but I'm not rewiring my house to get it. In rooms where I need a physical switch AND want smart control, I use Zigbee battery powered switches like the smart bulb remote from Lutron and the Hue wall switch remote.
There are Lutron options that arent sold at Home Depot or DIY shops: PD-5WS-DV-WH

its a basic on off that doesnt require a neutral.
 
When I was first installing LED bulbs in my home, I was using ecosmart bulbs from Home Depot in the locations where I didn't need a smart bulb but just wanted an LED bulb.

Then I started having ecosmart bulbs burn out after less than a year. So much for the claimed 5 or 10+ year lifetime! (I know, it depends on how many hours/day they are used, etc).

That led me to slowly install more Hue bulbs, which so far have been totally satisfactory and I have not had any Hue bulbs require replacement (yet).

Phillips Bulbs run long(er) than most if not all their competitors and have more output (Lumens) per Watt.
I am not affiliated with Phillips at all, just my observation.

I don't like the Hue products though, the biggest problem is not being able to use the standard wall switches with them, this will now change, long overdue, but a battery inside...WTF philips....and too expensive compared to for instance Shelly.
 
They are compatible only with Hue bulbs.

There is a battery because otherwise the circuit needs a neutral wire (rare in older houses) or needs a more complicated (bulky, expensive) design to leak current to power the switch.

If you want something more flexible, use the previously mentioned Shelly relays.
Standalone switches don't have the neutral in European homes, if combined with a wall outlet they do, nowadays though most outlets are about 30 cm from the floor while switches are at about 105 from the floor.
 
Stupid question but how will this work with a standard light switch? If someone flips it off.... My brain working slow today....
 
Except for the light bulb flicker...
I have three (of nine) hue bulbs now showing slight flicker. I can suppress it (mostly) by running them at 90% rather than 100% brightness, but I don't consider this acceptable.
I won't be buying any more bulbs. Which is a shame, because Hue are indeed (including their smart buttons, motion detector, and smart socket) pretty reliable.
Call hue support. I‘ve had a couple of bulbs go faulty whilst within the two year warranty period which they replaced.
 
Stupid question but how will this work with a standard light switch? If someone flips it off.... My brain working slow today....

The actual power is plugged into the hue device and controlled by it. Your old switch is just plugged into a set of dummy ports on the hue device which don’t actually control anything and the only purpose they serve is to let the hue device know you’ve flipped the switch.
 
I have yet to find a good homekit light switch such as this. I'd even be ok with a decent double switch (think: fan and light in one gang) but can't find that either. My Z-wave controller is on the fritz. Been solid for 8+ years so can't complain too much I guess.

Lutron Caseta... they are awesome switches and very reliable... I replaced every switch in my house with them.
 
The actual power is plugged into the hue device and controlled by it. Your old switch is just plugged into a set of dummy ports on the hue device which don’t actually control anything and the only purpose they serve is to let the hue device know you’ve flipped the switch.
So basically off and on are no longer up and down basically....
 
So basically off and on are no longer up and down basically....
Anywhere you have a 2 or 3 way switch up and down don’t indicate off and on already. With lighting it’s pretty self evident whether the circuit is on or not.

That said, despite having a major Hue installation - nearing and about to exceed 100 devices - I don’t really see the value in these. If I’m going to have to install something and it needs a battery, and it costs this much, I’d much rather use the Lutron Aurora dimmer switches we have already standardized on. Easier installation, easier battery change when they get around to needing it, built in dimming function, and overall much more configurable.
 
Anywhere you have a 2 or 3 way switch up and down don’t indicate off and on already. With lighting it’s pretty self evident whether the circuit is on or not.

That said, despite having a major Hue installation - nearing and about to exceed 100 devices - I don’t really see the value in these. If I’m going to have to install something and it needs a battery, and it costs this much, I’d much rather use the Lutron Aurora dimmer switches we have already standardized on. Easier installation, easier battery change when they get around to needing it, built in dimming function, and overall much more configurable.

Sigh....I think what my point was is pretty evident.
 
So basically off and on are no longer up and down basically....

No. The only way you could still do that is if you got a stateless toggle switch. This is why most (all?) smart switches are stateless. In order to have a typical wall switch for smart bulbs that actually reflected the state of the bulbs, the wall switch would need a motor in it (or some other device) that could allow it to flip the switch position when the lights were de-activated from a secondary source.

This is also why you don't really see smart dimmers with physical slider based dimming. While it isn't impossible to work around (you could put motor in the physical slider) in increases the level of complexity to the point where manufacturers just go a different route (like stateless rotary dials, buttons+led indicators, etc.)
 
No. The only way you could still do that is if you got a stateless toggle switch. This is why most (all?) smart switches are stateless. In order to have a typical wall switch for smart bulbs that actually reflected the state of the bulbs, the wall switch would need a motor in it (or some other device) that could allow it to flip the switch position when the lights were de-activated from a secondary source.

This is also why you don't really see smart dimmers with physical slider based dimming. While it isn't impossible to work around (you could put motor in the physical slider) in increases the level of complexity to the point where manufacturers just go a different route (like stateless rotary dials, buttons+led indicators, etc.)

...making the product not worth the time then....
 
...making the product not worth the time then....

Yeah - it totally depends on your expectations and a large part your current setup.



For example, zhenya was mentioning 3 way switches because for a lot of people, they have so many of those in their house that mentally they have a complete disconnect between UP=on, Down=off. It gets to a point where when you want to turn a light of, your subcutaneous reflex action is to touch the switch, feel which way it’s currently set, then flip it the other way. That happened to me with my stair lights – I basically developed this gesture where I would place 2 fingers on the switch (one on the top and one on the bottom) then flip it the other way. The whole thing was totally subconscious and completely muscle memory.



Then there are people who are using stateless switches. I have this one in a couple places;

adorne® sofTap™ Switch | Switches | adorne Collection | Wiring Devices (legrand.us)



I know that one is on the pricey side, but we have it mostly because my wife really liked the design. There are similar switches (but more reasonably priced)
 
This is almost certainly a problem with your home's wiring and not the bulbs themselves. I have well over 50 bulbs and none of them have this problem - unless there is a power problem to the bulb (rare - mostly on circuits with old style dimmers I haven't yet replaced).
House was built a year ago, to CA 2019 electrical code. I have zero reason to blame the wiring...
 
When I was first installing LED bulbs in my home, I was using ecosmart bulbs from Home Depot in the locations where I didn't need a smart bulb but just wanted an LED bulb.

Then I started having ecosmart bulbs burn out after less than a year. So much for the claimed 5 or 10+ year lifetime! (I know, it depends on how many hours/day they are used, etc).

That led me to slowly install more Hue bulbs, which so far have been totally satisfactory and I have not had any Hue bulbs require replacement (yet).
Unfortunately I had a 50% failure rate on the Hue bulbs - but that was from me dropping them. :D

I have 30 or so Sylvania and Sengled bulbs with many over four years old. I've not had any failures. Eleven of the Sylvanias are outside and see daytime temperatures as high as 115 F. Not a huge sample size but I have no complaints on for the two brands.

In some cases you will see people have issues if their power isn't clean. You might not notice a flicker but it can be hard on the electronics. I expect that Philips produces a fairly robust and well designed product. It would have cost me over $3000 if my current bulbs were Hue. I like Hue but they were just too costly for my liking.
 
. . . It would have cost me over $3000 if my current bulbs were Hue. . .
Understandable. My home is smaller and there are fewer bulbs to deal with. I've started to use Philips LED (non Hue) for those locations where I don't need the smart bulb capabilities, after being disappointed with the ecosmart bulbs from Home Depot.
 
Yes, it is not straightforward when you have a home that is using Hue bulbs (or something similar, smart bulbs) that can be controlled and dimmed using an app, but the bulbs are still (also) controlled (on-off only) with wall switches. In practice most of the time I simply leave the wall switch 'on' at all times, and control the bulbs solely using the app, but this is not always something that everyone in a household will be equally comfortable with.

Eventually I'm sure we'll evolve to a more integrated way to handle these smart lights, but with today's homes the existing wiring and switching is 'dumb'. I also don't like having to both replace bulbs and replace switches (not to mention plugs) to get the whole thing working in the best way . . .

The worst is in the middle of the night when power goes out. You are woken up to an entire house lit up like a Christmas tree.
 
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