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A megapixel bump is just consumer hokus pokus. I hope they plan to make actual improvements to the lens and sensor. Besides, 8 is plenty. Why do I need my photos taking up more memory?
 
A megapixel bump is just consumer hokus pokus. I hope they plan to make actual improvements to the lens and sensor. Besides, 8 is plenty. Why do I need my photos taking up more memory?

Hasn't Apple always been anti-megapixelwar?

I remember Steve comparing pictures of an iPhone with less MP as opposed to another smartphone in those days, saying the technology behind it is more important.

Therefore, I tend to believe there will be more improvements than solely the MP-count.
 
Hasn't Apple always been anti-megapixelwar?

I remember Steve comparing pictures of an iPhone with less MP as opposed to another smartphone in those days, saying the technology behind it is more important.

Therefore, I tend to believe there will be more improvements than solely the MP-count.

It's not about being anti-megapixel, it's about educating consumers that megapixels is not the end-all be-all decider of what makes an image sensor better. If they can keep the same quality sensor tech or better it and then increase the number of these high quality pixels, then so be it.
 
Disappointing... without a 128MP camera and a lens the size of the back of the phone with the ability to capture perfect photos in no light, I'm not buying! :rolleyes:

My goodness... we don't even know what the overall quality looks like yet and we're already passing judgement on the fact it's only a 12mp camera... 2 MP bigger than my, what use to be a professional 10MP Canon 5 years ago.

I'll hold judgement until it ships.
 
I will take this as proof that the plastic iPhone 5C will indeed have last years iPhone 5 innards. Hopefully with a better LTE chip supporting more frequencies.
 
If calling, taking pictures and sharing on facebook were my main uses in a phone, I'd be better buying a Nokia 808.
 
Seems odd they'd need a second LED. Other phones have much, much brighter LED lights without having to use two of them.

I'd like to see how they sell it, and how it gets reviewed. In the leaked photo, the LCDs are not the same color. Perhaps one or the other, or both will fire, depending on the amount and type of ambient light. I seldom use the flash for pictures, because the flash pictures don't look good to me. But if a more intelligent flash lets me take better pictures, then the cameraphone becomes more useful to me in more situations.
 
I noticed that too. Might consider checking out more of their content from now on...:)

They had excellent write-ups on the Samsung V Apple baseband-code case and the possibility of a fingerprint scanner on the 5S or ipad.
 
Does anybody want to buy my DSLR?

Seriously the sensor size will limit the quality of night time shots way beyond what a second LED can offer. Whats the range of those things?
 
I look forward to seeing how the low light photography compares. I carry a Canon s95 now and its ability to capture low light photos at near SDR quality is a thing to behold. If 5S can come even close to that level of quality it might be one less thing I'd have to carry around. :D
 
Give me a full-frame sensor or the camera is useless! While you're at it, give me a optical viewfinder and a hotshoe!
 
I look forward to seeing how the low light photography compares. I carry a Canon s95 now and its ability to capture low light photos at near SDR quality is a thing to behold. If 5S can come even close to that level of quality it might be one less thing I'd have to carry around. :D

That is where it's going for sure. Soon you'll have the top of the line cameras, iPhones for everyday P&S and then nothing else.
 
I agree that a bigger sensor would be a MORE SIGNIFICANT addition to the iPhone's camera system, I'm just not holding my breath for it's debut in the next hardware update.

Bigger sensor won't be possible since camera has to fit into cell phone foam factor. The only way to get bigger sensor is to lower the number of mega pixel in camera. However, this will not go well with uninformed consumers, wall street analyst, journalist etc.

I believe most of current 8Meg cell phone camera uses 1.4um or 1.75 um pixel size. This pixel size produce 8meg pixel camera with 1/4 inch optical size package, which is the sweat spot for cellphone camera.

Personally, I'd rather have 5Meg camera with 2.2um pixels size than 12Meg with 1.4um or even 1.2um. But, I know it won't happen since market won't allow that kind of product.
 
I agree that a bigger sensor would be a MORE SIGNIFICANT addition to the iPhone's camera system, I'm just not holding my breath for it's debut in the next hardware update.

Yeah, don't hold your breath :eek: Phones with bigger sensors do tend to be bigger phones. I'd hope if Apple were going to release an iPhone with a larger screen they'd up the sensor size but even then I don't hold out much hope that they would. Either way, you can bet the iPhone 5S (or 6 because that's what I think they'll call it) camera will certainly be at least a little better than the one in the iPhone 5.
 
If it only had a bigger sensor to go with those extra megapixels...
Why does everyone keep saying this as if Apple doesn't know? During the 4S presentation, Phil Schiller explained this concept. They won't bump the camera up to 12mp without making sure it takes better pictures.
 
The second flash looks like its infrared. If properly calibrated it can actually allow you to take really low light photos. Or gray-scaled photos in complete darkness. Just my guess.
 
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