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BvizioN

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I do apologize if this subject has been discussed on another thread but there is something that is driving me mad on iOS 12!

Why can I not view my photos on iPhone gallery, without having to wait for them to download from wherever they are (which turns to be forever waiting for some reason)? I get presented with this stupid circle perhaps indicating that is being downloaded but it never does? I have enough storage on my phone and I don't need them to be stored elsewhere! Can someone please show me how to turn off this stupid feature, if this is not a bug


Thank you, guys.

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jpn

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hi

lets try to help.

when you mention "iPhone gallery", do you mean Photos app on yr iPhone or ?

lets start with that question.

the way it normally (or, at least can be set up to) works is:

1 take a photo using the iOS Camera app
2 photo will instantly be stored already in iOS Photos (absolutely no time required for this, its instantaneous)

now, to get the photos up to apple's iCloud server and accessible on other iOS devices you have, or, on other people's iOS devices whom you have shared iPhoto shared album rights to, means you of course need to have Photos in iCloud turned on with sharing turned on, and set some other parameters in the Photos app.

the photo you attached with the Downloading cursor showing also shows that the 4G signal (albeit it maybe 4G) has only 2 bars. the other day my phone just wouldn't upload photos. the reason was i had turned HD (High Definition) and it made my data allowance go over its limit so my carrier throttled me to a speed that nothing (not even most websites) would load. so maybe its carrier based issue.
(I assume you have set photos to be uploaded over Cellular and not just Wifi)
 

BvizioN

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hi

lets try to help.

when you mention "iPhone gallery", do you mean Photos app on yr iPhone or ?

lets start with that question.

the way it normally (or, at least can be set up to) works is:

1 take a photo using the iOS Camera app
2 photo will instantly be stored already in iOS Photos (absolutely no time required for this, its instantaneous)

now, to get the photos up to apple's iCloud server and accessible on other iOS devices you have, or, on other people's iOS devices whom you have shared iPhoto shared album rights to, means you of course need to have Photos in iCloud turned on with sharing turned on, and set some other parameters in the Photos app.

the photo you attached with the Downloading cursor showing also shows that the 4G signal (albeit it maybe 4G) has only 2 bars. the other day my phone just wouldn't upload photos. the reason was i had turned HD (High Definition) and it made my data allowance go over its limit so my carrier throttled me to a speed that nothing (not even most websites) would load. so maybe its carrier based issue.
(I assume you have set photos to be uploaded over Cellular and not just Wifi)


Thank You for the explanation. Yes, photos app, that's what I meant. It is not just photos added from the iPad, it is actual videos and photos I have taken with the iPhone itself who just appear as a thumbnail now and you have to wait for it to download (assuming it ever does) and on my example photo I was at my workplace where there is no strong coverage, but it is the same when I am at home with full coverage or wifi. Honestly not sure what kind of mess Apple has done with the photos App. I don't care if they get stored in the clouds, fine. Just want them to be in the phone also If I have not deleted them.
 

Neoconair

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Have you enabled iCloud Photo Library (distinct from Photo Stream and Photo Sharing)?

iCloud Photo Library will remove older photos from your devices if they have not been accessed for a while, leaving you with the compressed versions.
 
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BvizioN

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Have you enabled iCloud Photo Library (distinct from Photo Stream and Photo Sharing)?

iCloud Photo Library will remove older photos from your devices if they have not been accessed for a while, leaving you with the compressed versions.

Spot on. I think that is the reason. Thanks
Now if I disable that option, will it revert back all photos that have been removed or just added to the iCloud?
 

Neoconair

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If you disable, the phone should attempt to download your entire library to local storage. Do you have enough space?

Having used IPL for a few months I found it frustrating, unpredictable, and counter-intuitive. Fortunately I'd also been using Google Photos in parallel, which is a superior service except that the app must be periodically opened to start a backup (on Android it happens automatically).
 
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BvizioN

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If you disable, the phone should attempt to download your entire library to local storage. Do you have enough space?

Having used IPL for a few months I found it frustrating, unpredictable, and counter-intuitive. Fortunately I'd also been using Google Photos in parallel, which is a superior service except that the app must be periodically opened to start a backup (on Android it happens automatically).

Yes, have plenty of storage on my phone. And also use Google photos and I agree it is superior to Apple's iCould solution. Going to disable the iCloud Photos.
 

rorschach

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Spot on. I think that is the reason. Thanks
Now if I disable that option, will it revert back all photos that have been removed or just added to the iCloud?

You don’t have to disable iCloud Photos entirely. Just change from “Optimize Storage” to “Download and Keep Originals” in Photos settings.
 
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sean000

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Yeah... i got the 256GB iPhone X so I could keep original on the device and in iCloud (and so I could record 4k video).

I have long synced with both Google Photos and iCloud photos as well. Our family plan includes 200 GB of iCloud storage, so I have plenty of room up there. I don't pay for additional storage on Google, so I eventually had to change my Google sync settings from "Original" to "High Quality" (which has unlimited storage).

Apple has been getting better at the photos thing by making it a bit more like Google Photos. Most of my family shares photos over iCloud Photo Sharing, so I end up using it more. I take most of my photos using the my iPhone X, but I often edit photos using my iPad Pro which does not have as much storage. So for that I end up downloading original as needed, but since it's always over WiFi that happens pretty quickly.
 
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