Photo just fails to do the basic

[jasnw]

In this sort of thread about some app or capability that Apple has killed off or completely redone I see two types of responses: "OMG NOW WHAT!!!" and "so what, man up and use the new way." For those on the latter side of most issues, here's where the OMG people are coming from. Life is short, and there are only so many time units available to do things. Relearning how to use the tools I need in order to do the things I really want to do falls far down on the list of "time well spent" unless it is really necessary. Some dev getting a wild hair about a new/different/spiffy/thin way to do something is not what I consider "really necessary." I first ran into this in the computer world with Microsoft and Word. I'd just get to where I could do the things with Word that I needed to do, and then BAM, MS would jerk the interface around. Just think if you were a carpenter and some idiot changed how your tools work every three years. Learning is good, but learning over and over and OVER again how to get the same thing done because someone decided there was a better way is not.

So, is Photos better than iPhoto, I don't know. Maybe, but I was able to do what I wanted just fine with iPhoto, and now I'm having to learning how to do these things all over again. And if you think the community wailing about iPhoto has been bad, just wait until Apple finally gets up the nerve to do something about iTunes. Teens and tweens the world over will be having cows, man.

 

[robgendreau]

So, is Photos better than iPhoto, I don't know. Maybe, but I was able to do what I wanted just fine with iPhoto, and now I'm having to learning how to do these things all over again. And if you think the community wailing about iPhoto has been bad, just wait until Apple finally gets up the nerve to do something about iTunes. Teens and tweens the world over will be having cows, man.

I kinda doubt it. They have adjusted just fine to say Spotify's interface and probably dunno what iTunes is, let alone a computer thingee. And "having cows, man" reminds me of Mac Pluses and Bart Simpson calendars printed on ImageWriters....

You do have a great point about the investment in relearning. But maybe it's learning to adjust to different interfaces that really aren't much different. Once you switch, it's easier and easier each time.

After all a slider may be in a new place in Photos but it still adjusts contrast, and a marquee still crops, and there are still virtual containers like albums. It's more analogous to finding the wiper control in a different place on your new car. Or paddle shifters vs a console mounted shift lever. It's still gear changes. Even non digital tools change; a hammer may still be basically the same but nail guns are evolving.

I think the big problem for all types of users of iPhoto and Aperture was the elimination of tools completely. There are just some things you cannot do at all, like delete images from disk from within Photos.

 

[aicul]

I've been resisting replying; feel like a fish swimming upstream. I far prefer Photos to iPhoto. [...]

I do appreciate your detailed response. Thank-you from replying. And indeed it seems Photos meets your needs.

The fact is that to me (and apparently other responders to the thread) iPhoto was more natural to use and everything was pretty self evident; I fail to have that feeling of simplicity when I "try" to use "Photos".

To me "simplicity" is the true litmus test. The point is not whether functionality such as "Events" is better than the "Years/Collections/Moments views" it is about which is more natural to use. I strongly believe iPhoto is easier to use.

And - i'm saying this with a joking smile - isn't "events" from iPhoto easter to understand than the "Years/Collections/Moments" of Photos ?