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Jaw3000

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I'm looking for recommendations for photography browser apps that might fit my workflow. I keep all of my photos organized in folders, and do not want to use proprietary databases (like Apple Photos). I want to be able to quickly browse images, and color tag selected images to return to, especially one that would sync with Finder color tags for viewing in the Finder. This seems like such an easy thing, but I have not found an app that does this properly. GraphicConverter comes closest, but there is a bug that prevents it from showing multiple color tags on an image, or picking up color tags under certain circumstances. Other apps I've tried either don't allow color tagging at all, don't sync with Finder color tags, or only allow tagging with one color or make the process needlessly difficult. Once color tagged, I return to the photos to make final selections, and it would be nice if the app also allowed EXIF viewing/editing, tagging, ratings, and flagging, and would sync the EXIF with Finder tag colors and keywords where appropriate. This seems so basic and simple, yet I have not found an app that does this well or even at all. As I mentioned, GraphicConverter comes closest, but I've also checked out RawPower (tagging broken with Monterey and doesn't support EXIF or color tags), ACDSee, Photo Mechanic, Xnview, and probably others.

I do use Capture One, which works great for processing, editing, and tagging, but is overkill when you just want to quickly go through a folder of photos and make selections (without having to import them into Capture One's proprietary database and sync back out). I used to use Lightroom, but I really dislike the direction Adobe has been going in recent years and moved away from it. I have not tried Adobe Bridge to see if it meets my requirements, but I'm reluctant to install Creative Cloud just to get Bridge, even though its free. Apple Photos is really worthless to me, as it uses its own database, doesn't allow proper EXIF metadata viewing and editing, and doesn't support color tagging either (nor does it sync with Finder tags, which is strange?).

Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Curious if you found anything, as this is exactly what I am looking for as well?
 
Curious if you found anything, as this is exactly what I am looking for as well?
No, I have not found anything. It seems like such a natural way to work like this, but there doesn't seem to be anything out there that fits our needs (at least on Mac), and there doesn't appear to be a lot of others who use a similar workflow. It seems most people just adapt to using Lightroom, dump all their photos into the cloud, or have extremely basic needs and are happy using the Photos app and iCloud. No one seems to tag. I don't want to use the cloud, and I've never felt database driven apps are appropriate (because of slow downs and massive database and thumbnail cache files). I'm looking for a more advanced viewer app, that can quickly go through a local folder of photos and allow me to tag, rate, and add IPTC data (like Lightroom and Capture One allows) directly to the files or XML sidecar files. I've found nothing. Apps are either horribly designed, have an unintuitive UI, don't actually work, or have extremely limited or poorly-designed IPTC tagging features.

The closest I've found is either GraphicConverter or Photo Mechanic. But both have something to be desired. GraphicConverter is slow, its tagging features are unintuitive and often don't seem to work or are buggy. Photo Mechanic has a poor UI and its tagging leaves something to be desired. I'd just like a fast photo viewing app combined with Lightroom's or CaptureOne's metadata and keywording panels, along with star/color ratings and multi-shot comparisons. Apple could actually enhance the Finder relatively easily with features for photographers by adding full metadata, tagging, and IPTC editing support right into the Finder. Then Finder could be used for this, but of course they have not done it, probably because they perceive it to be an extremely niche feature. Windows 11 actually has better photo metadata support in Explorer than the Finder does now.
 
Is Photo Mechanic something that might work for you?



EDIT:Sorry skim read your original post and can now see you tried it :/
 
Check out the Digital Photography forum, they'll be people there that will give you lots of advise.
 
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Is that Photo Mechanic or Photo Mechanic Plus you are using
see https://home.camerabits.com/tour-photo-mechanic-plus/

I have Lightroom and PM+ and about 2TB of images in my main listing. For sorting and finding PM+ is good, but I still hanker after something like Aperture (using referenced files - not the internal database) where you don't rely (at least initially) on the file system for naming conventions. Lightroom searching is very poor.
 
Neofinder?


Just found this app because I’m like you, I don’t want my photos in a database. Giving it a free trial now but it looks good so far.
Is Photo Mechanic something that might work for you?

What I'm hoping to find is a Browser app that tags the files at the Finder level so you could see the tags in the Finder view not having to go into a specific software. If viewing larger photo files in the Finder's Gallery View was quicker that would be ideal

Is there anyway to speed up the Finder's Gallery View? I assume it's reading the raw's jpg preview but it seems like it is reading the Raw file. I click on a new file and it takes seconds before the image comes up
 
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No, I have not found anything. It seems like such a natural way to work like this, but there doesn't seem to be anything out there that fits our needs...
Curious if you have tried RawPhotoProcessor? it looks like it syncs to the Finder Level, I haven't tried it yet but am looking
 
What about Lyn? It does pick up colour tags from Finder, and allows you to set them. I have a pretty old version that only allows one tag, but maybe they've updated since then. There is a free trial.

 
We use GC in a similar way but rather more casual. (more a futzing-around-flow than a real work-flow) The fact that it can edit Finder Comments is a great boon, but it got very sluggish after Thorsten rewrote the core after v6 to make use of modern OS & multi-core features, especially accessing volumes across a network (even gigabit ethernet).
We bought NeoFinder because the author said it was perfect for cross-network browsing, but we found it non-intuitive. That was several years ago so I can't recall what the issues were.
Will definitely have to check out the Digital Photography forum.
 
Curious if you have tried RawPhotoProcessor? it looks like it syncs to the Finder Level, I haven't tried it yet but am looking
never mind I tried it and immediately got a Dialog error box stating tags no longer work
plus what kind of editing software doesn't have an easy way to rename files :rolleyes:
 
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