Photos Beta Retouch Tool

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by jrawl004, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. jrawl004 macrumors newbie

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    This is what I get when I use the retouch tool in the Photos App. Seems as if Apple has a ton of work left to do in this area. The outcome in Pixelmator Photoshop, Lightroom and even Aperture does a much better job than what I'm getting here. Maybe someone with a little more experience/testing can shed some light... I understand it's a beta and that apps like pixelmatr and photoshop were designed for this type of editing but for Apple to merge iPhoto and Aperture into one, this should not be an issue. Anyone else having this issue with the retouch tool?
     

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  2. VirtualRain macrumors 603

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    I think this assumption might be the basis for some of your disappointment... Photos is a new version of iPhoto... And borrows little, if anything (?) from Aperture.

    Now to be fair, that's a pretty challenging retouch for any app... I'm actually impressed with what you got from Pixelmator. I'd be surprised if Aperture could match that result, but if so, you're a much better retoucher than I am (which isn't hard) ;)

    This disappointing retouch capability seems to join a long and growing list of disappointments with this app. I've yet to really see anything other than the IMAP-like sync ability of Photos that makes it even worth having. I'm really surprised with Apple on this one.
     
  3. r.harris1 macrumors 6502a

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    Personally, I think even as an iPhoto replacement, Photos has quite a ways to go to get up to what I'd even call "1.0" status. I did actually expect utter destruction of both tools (iPhoto/Aperture) and a very, very basic initial release, along the lines of FCP X/iWork, but golly did they out-do themselves:).

    The thing is, I see a lot of potential (no, not holding my breath). It's very, very fast, has a clean interface, and a bit of Apple cleverness here and there in small touches, but I think even iPhotos users may be left somewhat high-and-dry with the first release. Where I am holding my breath is when they open up the imaging kernel to developers. I've worked with the iOS variant of this for stuff at work and it is hugely powerful and I'm excited for it on OS X. In fact, in my ideal world, Apple would focus on the basics of the application and let the bigger kids focus on the rest. Doing my re-touching through a non-destructive, non-roundtrip Pixelmator extension would be very welcome indeed.
     
  4. MCAsan macrumors 601

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    If you have made the serious investment in camera bodies, lenses, and accessories.....have a post processing environment that can make the most of your image files. Neither iPhoto or Photos is the answer. Those are aimed at the casual photographer using IOS devices wanting to quickly do something to a photo and get it out to others via social media.

    Apple had a good thing going with Aperture. They are now leaving it because it is not targeted to the casual photographer. So if you were an Aperture user, consider you options of a DAM replacement as being some combination of Lightroom or Capture One plus a set of plugins (Photoshop, DxO), Topaz, Nik, PPS9,....etc.).

    I played with the Photos beta for a few minutes.....longer enough to see that so far Photos might be an iPhoto replacement......but t is a long way from replacing Aperture.
     
  5. r.harris1 macrumors 6502a

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    I personally can't speak for Apple's vision or intentions, but yes, while it depends entirely on your DAM needs, you are left with LR/C1/smaller players and the usual round-tripable plugins. I don't need those tools specifically but would certainly choose C1, more from its RAW capabilities than anything.
     
  6. jrawl004 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yes, I have made a decent investment in gear and have a petty good processing environment to go with it. However, I'm just trying to help push the Photos App forward whether it's for the casual user or not. I see the current glass as half full just as I did with FCPX and we all know how that turned out.
     
  7. lcseds macrumors 6502a

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    That's all I can produce in Photos. A smear. On a pic looking down many stories onto a beach, I tried to remove a small beach umbrella. It was just a smeary blotch using the Photos retouch. That should have been easy with it mostly all sand around it. I really can't see where this tool would work with the possible exception of a small dust spec in the sky. I am not a professional and don't do a ton of post, but with this being the only serious "repair" tool in Photos (so far of course), it's sort of useless for me.
    This app will be for folks like my wife. Her photos are crooked, she has no concept of rule of thirds, has a trash can or other distraction in the shots, etc., but she thinks they are just fine. I guess I will have to learn LR because in it's present form, Photos is a little to basic for me.
     

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