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Ambrosia7177

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Hello.

I have a new iPhone 11 Pro max with iOS 13 and I could use some help understanding what exactly the "Photos Capture Outside the Frame" feature is and why I might want to use it...
 

kenoh

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Think of it like when you change the aspect ratio of your image on your camera, lets say you change the aspect ratio to take pictures in square format. However, what is happening is the camera is performing an in camera crop of the image data. Now think of shooting RAW plus JPG in square format, you get the jpg square image but the raw is the full sensor data and so includes bits of the image that the crop removed. This means you can go back later and change your crop should you wish to.

This is a generalisation of that same thing here. despite you framing a certain way, it stores the entire image with a crop applied for viewing that you can change later. For those damn, I should have cropped that lamppost in/out... type of thing.
 
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Ambrosia7177

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Think of it like when you change the aspect ratio of your image on your camera, lets say you change the aspect ratio to take pictures in square format. However, what is happening is the camera is performing an in camera crop of the image data. Now think of shooting RAW plus JPG in square format, you get the jpg square image but the raw is the full sensor data and so includes bits of the image that the crop removed. This means you can go back later and change your crop should you wish to.

This is a generalisation of that same thing here. despite you framing a certain way, it stores the entire image with a crop applied for viewing that you can change later. For those damn, I should have cropped that lamppost in/out... type of thing.

Are there any downsides to turning it on?

I tried reading about this feature, but it actually sounds rather involved what all iOS does to your photo.

Being old-school, I generally prefer maintaining control and NOT letting software tinker with my photos. (e.g. Something I read implied that iOS somehow updates your photos later on and/or threw away some data - I didnt follow what was beings aid...)

Good photographers compose BEFORE they shoot, and so they are less likely to need all of this after-the-fact trickery.

And, personally, I "bracket" the hell out of things, so I almost always have the composition that I want anyways...

What I am gettinga t, is if I leave this turned off, will I lose anything as long as I am careful to copmose what I want the first time?
 

r.harris1

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There's no real downside to leaving it off. It's just additional flexibility after the fact if you have it turned on, is the way I understand it. If you're still unsure, the best way to learn a new tool is to go practice with it and try the features that aren't clear. That way, you not only learn the tool - always good :) - but you can also make an experience-based decision on whether it's the right thing for you to use.
 

kenoh

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As I understand it, some of the computational jiggery pokery that they do (Deep Fusion) for pulling out fine details by using multiple images is disabled in certain circumstances if you use capture outside the frame.
 
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