Photos go directly to icloud

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by Velli, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. Velli macrumors member

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    I'm pretty sure this issue arose with iOS 11: I have iCloud syncing turned on, and would like it to be. However, even though I have about 30 gig free on my 64 GB SE, whenever i take a picture or video it is IMMEDIATELY uploaded to iCloud, and then deleted on my device. Which means, if I want to send the picture or video I just took, i have to wait for it to re-download from iCloud - which sometimes takes a few minutes! I have way too many pictures to turn iCloud off, and I really want to keep the intelligent sync, so that I have access to all of my photos. Is there any way I can make sure that new photos are actually staying on the device, and only old photos are in the cloud?
     
  2. Puonti macrumors 6502a

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    It sounds strange that the images and videos would be automatically deleted, but the closest thing I can think of is that you might have “optimize iPhone storage” enabled under Photos settings. This means that original photos and videos are uploaded to iCloud Photo Library and optimized versions are left on the device. I believe that would cause videos for instance to be downloaded when you try to view them.
     
  3. hsouris macrumors member

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    wow, I was ready to post this exact same issue, but I found your thread first.

    I have the same problem: pictures I shoot, they immediately become unavailable for immediate viewing. And I have almost 10GB free space. From what I can remember, this didn't happen to me before iOS 11. I, also, have optimize iphone storage on, but I think it's way too aggressive.
     
  4. chemicalbilly macrumors newbie

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    I am having the same issue. Just noticed it in the last few weeks and I believe it is ios11 related. I have over 40gb free, so the os seems to be super aggressive with saving storage.
     
  5. CTHarrryH macrumors 68000

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    Check settings and report what they are - as asked is epitomize set
     
  6. guireis macrumors newbie

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    I have the same issue. I’m still looking for reason for this. I know that iOS use a lot of gigs of cache and recently I downloaded many music albums and also connect to iwatch, so I dont know what exactly made this change.
    --- Post Merged, Dec 10, 2017 ---
    From Apple:

    If you turn on Optimize Storage, iCloud Photo Library automatically manages the size of your library on your device. Your original photos and videos are stored in iCloud and space-saving versions are kept on your device. Your library is optimized only when you need space, starting with the photos and videos you access least. You can download the original photos and videos over Wi-Fi or cellular when you need them. You can use Optimize Storage on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Mac.
     
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  8. Mad Mac Maniac macrumors 601

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    Same.


    Yes, this has been a feature for a while. But it has NEVER deleted aggressively like this. Also it has always only uploaded via wifi, but for me this “removing from device” occurs on cellular IMMEDIATELY after I take a pic. Today I was on a hike, took a photo, and attempted to send it in iMessage, but it had to redownload the pic I had literally just taken moments earlier.
     
  9. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

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    this is happening for me also and it's making iCloud Photo Library virtually unusable for me.
     
  10. CjonesHouston macrumors 65816

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    I turned off optimized storage until bug is fixed. I swear pictures didn’t leave the device before. Not if you had space and took photos with camera on the current used iPhone.
     
  11. itsmilo macrumors 68020

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    I noticed the same on my iPhone 7 Plus.

    Also i have 18 GB left on my iPhone. In the past, before iOS 11 it would keep a lot more photos on my actual phone bringing the free space down to about 6 GB instead of 18
     
  12. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

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    Did they fix this in 11.2.1? Mines been better tonight. Not sure if it's just being better right now or if it will stay that way.
     
  13. guireis macrumors newbie

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    No.
     
  14. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

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    Yeah mines gone to crap again. I had high hopes.
     
  15. ChuckXIII macrumors newbie

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    Same problem here. So goddamn frustrating. My phone still has half of it's space available so it should definitely not be storing photos I just took up in the cloud. It never did before on of the most recent iOS 11 updates.
     
  16. MiamiBourne macrumors regular

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    I think i'm having the same issue, but to take this a step further I can't edit or share my pic/videos. When I try to edit the download icon comes up and never moves. When I try to share my Photos app gets stuck. Only photos I took right away work. I feel like there is an issue with iCloud that's causing this.
     
  17. Tymen macrumors member

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    Jup, I got the exact same problem to. I contacted Apple and the supports guy told me that it works correctly and that when your iCloud library is larger then your iPhone storage capacity is then this should happen. I told him over and over that I still have 12 gb free of storage but every picture goes directly to iCloud and left my iPhone.. And still he told me it works correctly. Don't think so, this is something recently..
     
  18. farfromovin macrumors member

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    How large is your photo library on iCloud? Sounds like he’s saying if you have 20GB on iCloud but only 12GB free on the device, no pics will stay on the phone unless all pics can stay on...

    If that’s true, Apple really needs to make that optimize storage option smarter and start by deleting the oldest pics first to still give you 10%-20% free storage space left over.
     
  19. niji Contributor

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    i'm not sure of the settings people are using.
    i give my settings below. i'm not currently experiencing the problem OP mentioned.

    my settings are:

    iPhone: (Photos app)
    iCloud Photo Library (On)
    Download and Keep Originals (On)
    Cellular Data (On)
    Unlimited Updates (Off)
    Transfer to Mac or PC (Automatic)
    Upload to My Photo Stream (Off)
    iCloud Photo Sharing (Off)
    Summarize Photos (On)

    mac (Photos app)
    iCloud Photo Library (On)
    Download Originals to this Mac (On)
    Summarize Photos (On)
    My Photo Stream (Off)
    Optimize Storage (Off)
    iCloud Photo Sharing (On)

    i have 100GB left on mac / 30GB left on iPhone / 90GB left in iCloud Storage
     
  20. Tymen macrumors member

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    160 GB iCloud Photo-library with 20 GB free in iCloud.

    I always thought that this was how it works.

    With this setup I assume your have more total memory on your iPhone than your iCloud Photo-library is in total. Otherwise you wouldn't have the option 'download and keep original' and that isn't the option we are using here because me iCloud Photo-library is larger than my iPhone storage capacity.
     
  21. EJ8 Suspended

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    Apple’s photo cloud solution is the worst. Total crap. I stopped using it years ago. I have all their confusing bs storage features and settings turned off. I have a local Camera Roll only. I take pictures. They store on my phone. They auto copy permanently to Google Photos. Done.

    The people in charge of Apple’s cloud / photo solution are idiots.
     
  22. niji Contributor

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    my total total iPhone total capacity is 128GB (maximum for 6s)
    my total total iCloud storage is 400BG.

    so iCloud is more than my iPhone.
     
  23. Tymen macrumors member

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    But then, with the setting 'Download and Keep Originals (On)' you don't have all your pictures on your phone
     
  24. niji Contributor

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    my Photo library is about 40GB. all originals are on my phone.
     

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