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It's "to", not 2. And you wont be seeing a HD in the touch

The new Creative Zen Vision is rumoured to be outputing 720p to its screen/external connections.

The iPod Touch will eventually get that I'd assume, if they continue making the iPod Touch over the next year.
 
iPod Classic

I can't believe there has been no talk about the new Ipod Classic. 80 and 160 gig models.... thats huge! real firepower and a new interface. i am impressed by that and plan on buying one.
 
I won't buy an iPod until it can hold all the music in the world at CD quality. Even then, I'd still consider a Zune.

I don't see why people are complaining about the complainers on this one. The iPod Touch is their flagship product, and holds 16gb of music. I guess you could complain that 24 or 32gb of flash memory would cut in to their profit margins slightly, or that putting in a hard drive would make it thicker, but the fact remains, 16gb for a device primarly designed to display movies and 16:10 aspect TV is pretty damned small. And keep in mind it's supposed to replace your ipod as a music player, not supliment it, so your music collection has to fit on there.

Would a 30gb iPod Touch that's the thickness of a 5G iPod have been so terrible? We're definately approaching the point of "too thin". I would argue that the 1st gen nanos were too thin for adults, I had two friends break theirs by simply sitting with them in their front pocket. Most everyone I know owns at least one iPod, none have ever had a drive failure, so I don't really see the point of solid state memory on such a high end product, especially when it's a cripiling feature that adds no functionality.
 
Would a 30gb iPod Touch that's the thickness of a 5G iPod have been so terrible? We're definately approaching the point of "too thin". I would argue that the 1st gen nanos were too thin for adults, I had two friends break theirs by simply sitting with them in their front pocket. Most everyone I know owns at least one iPod, none have ever had a drive failure, so I don't really see the point of solid state memory on such a high end product, especially when it's a cripiling feature that adds no functionality.

Agreed. Form seemingly continues to trump function in Cupertino, to our loss as consumers. If anything, we should be given a choice: iPod Touch with a flash drive and an HDD-based iPod Touch. My guess is that the HDD version would outsell its flash-based counterpart in multiples.

The only problem I've experienced with an iPod HDD is user error. I dropped it on a ceramic tile floor. :(
 
I don't see why people are complaining about the complainers on this one. The iPod Touch is their flagship product, and holds 16gb of music. I guess you could complain that 24 or 32gb of flash memory would cut in to their profit margins slightly, or that putting in a hard drive would make it thicker, but the fact remains, 16gb for a device primarly designed to display movies and 16:10 aspect TV is pretty damned small. And keep in mind it's supposed to replace your ipod as a music player, not supliment it, so your music collection has to fit on there.

Would a 30gb iPod Touch that's the thickness of a 5G iPod have been so terrible?

Keep in mind that both a hard drive and touchscreen would eat away at the battery life... though maybe putting in slightly larger battery to make up for it.

Maybe the 80Gig iPod Touch with the thickness of the 60Gig 5G model would do... the industry, though, wants to go towards flash memory...
 
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