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If AT&T's network will still be compatible with it in 2017, I will definitely rock my iPhone 2G on June 29, 2017 to mark the 10 year anniversary of it's release. As of this day, it's still completely functional with good battery life and still activates when you put a SIM card in, although I have to use an adapter. Hopefully it stays that way for roughly another 2 years. I'm sure the phone will still work, it's the network I'm concerned about.

GSM will be around for a while to come. UMTS will likely perish before GSM does.
 
I disagree. Future generations will be bigger with less features, worse battery life, and a black & white screen.

Yep, it's common knowledge that the first car was invented in 570 BC; it flew and got ∞mpg. It's been all downhill since, and the same will happen to the Watch.
 
GSM will be around for a while to come. UMTS will likely perish before GSM does.

Yeah but EDGE internet might be disabled by then. Even if you can make calls the internet won't work unless on wifi. Actually there was an article last year about ATT shutting down EDGE. As of now, it hasn't happened yet.
 
I guess the store where I had my try-on might have had some of these units, but I didn't see them.

I was actually less than impressed with how the watch was presented at the store. Basically a locked drawer with a bunch of watches inside, which the retail employee had to put on me (I asked if that's how it that was going to be the arrangement once I got it home!). And then when I tried to play with it, of course it was on its canned demo mode.

It would have been nice to see one of these demonstration setups where at least you could have some meaningful interaction with the device.
 
I disagree. Future generations will be bigger with less features, worse battery life, and a black & white screen.

Yes, very clever. I see what you did there... :roll eyes:

I'm talking about future generations, I'm talking about THIS model, THIS year.

They have more trick up their sleeve which are yet to be revealed. I'm thinking strong integration with Homekit/Home app and TV.
 
Since the Apple Watch battery is so small it would be neat if we could use an iPad or iPhone to charge it.
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12 hours into my first day of fiddling and playing with my watch, the battery's at 66% but my iPhone 6 Plus battery dropped to less than 20% several hours ago – uncharacteristically quickly – and I had to put it back on a charger. Watch seems to put quite a draw on the phone.
 
Can we connect 4k monitors to the diagnostic port on the Apple Watch?

:p:p

Actually, I think it's a port to allow us to connect game controllers. The watch will specialize in games where you take the watch off, set it down somewhere, connect a game controller, and then play games varying from Ping Pong to Borderlands to Crysis. :p

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12 hours into my first day of fiddling and playing with my watch, the battery's at 66% but my iPhone 6 Plus battery dropped to less than 20% several hours ago – uncharacteristically quickly – and I had to put it back on a charger. Watch seems to put quite a draw on the phone.

Strange, I've been wearing my watch for 15 hours and still have 43% on my watch and 52% on my iPhone 5.:confused:
 
Everything article keeps calling this a diagnostics port. I can tell you from first hand experience that its not. My watch was experiencing issues with the gyro. When I took it to the genius bar, the Apple Genius connected my phone to the store wifi, entered something into his iPad, and all of a sudden my watch started running diagnostics through the store wireless. After seeing this, I believe that port was designed from the start simply for use in the store displays using that special band.

So...
Your theory is that Apple put a port on millions of watches that is useless outside of an in store demo, rather than do a few hundred one offs?

I disagree.
 
12 hours into my first day of fiddling and playing with my watch, the battery's at 66% but my iPhone 6 Plus battery dropped to less than 20% several hours ago – uncharacteristically quickly – and I had to put it back on a charger. Watch seems to put quite a draw on the phone.

I also started having that happen recently with my 6 Plus. But I don't have an Apple Watch yet (late June delivery). It was really weird because I could go 2-3 days previously. I also noticed it getting really warm near the mid-top. So it might be another issue?
 
I also started having that happen recently with my 6 Plus. But I don't have an Apple Watch yet (late June delivery). It was really weird because I could go 2-3 days previously. I also noticed it getting really warm near the mid-top. So it might be another issue?

Could it be iCloud sync of photos? It is taking weeks to sync the whole library and in my battery usage stats the photos app is at the top.
 
12 hours into my first day of fiddling and playing with my watch, the battery's at 66% but my iPhone 6 Plus battery dropped to less than 20% several hours ago – uncharacteristically quickly – and I had to put it back on a charger. Watch seems to put quite a draw on the phone.

Considering the screen is the biggest draw, then the network, and your using the screen much less, I'd check my push settings, or background refresh, because in theory your phone should last longer, not less.
 
Could it be iCloud sync of photos? It is taking weeks to sync the whole library and in my battery usage stats the photos app is at the top.

Mine keeps telling me it's out of space to sync even though my devices are 128GB. I keep tapping ignore because I still need to figure out what to do and I'm always busy when I think about it. Now I'm about to go to bed. I guess I should just click on optimize but I just don't get how it can't sync everything when my iPad hardly has any photos on it and my iPhone already has the originals. Unless it's pulling from my old iPhoto archives on my Mac? I just setup iCloud photos on my personal rMBP a couple weeks ago so maybe that is it? I'm just leery of sending all my iPhone originals to live in the cloud. Especially since it was glitching out for lots of people when it first launched.
 
I'm amazed how many people here think this is amazing or special. It really fricken isn't. Plenty of display gear has some special port or way of getting data and power to it.
 
"diag" port on demo watches

I have seen employees doing some kind of update through that port. They had a gray block, about 2x2 inches, with little contacts connected to the demo watches with their bands removed. Someone said the "demo loop" was being updated.
 
12 hours into my first day of fiddling and playing with my watch, the battery's at 66% but my iPhone 6 Plus battery dropped to less than 20% several hours ago – uncharacteristically quickly – and I had to put it back on a charger. Watch seems to put quite a draw on the phone.

Anecdotally... the opposite is true for me.
End of the day: 49% Apple Watch, 83% iPhone (extraordinarily high for me).
 
It wasn't until last Friday that I was able to see the Apple Watch in person. I wondered if the displays used iPad Minis but thought it might just be a display. Pretty neat that it connects directly to the iPad.

Since the Apple Watch battery is so small it would be neat if we could use an iPad or iPhone to charge it.

I think eventually the port will be used for specialized bands. I'm just not sure how long Apple will wait to open up official access. There's just no reason to have that on millions of units without a purpose.

They aren't ipad minis per say. They are screens with an ipad motherboard, with one large battery powering them and the watch itself. Charged by magsafe at night and the lightning on the back for diagnostics and software updates.
 
Everything article keeps calling this a diagnostics port. I can tell you from first hand experience that its not. My watch was experiencing issues with the gyro. When I took it to the genius bar, the Apple Genius connected my phone to the store wifi, entered something into his iPad, and all of a sudden my watch started running diagnostics through the store wireless. After seeing this, I believe that port was designed from the start simply for use in the store displays using that special band.

That may be the case, but they still need a way to diagnose problems when the Wifi isn't working. They can't just sacrifice an iPod Nano on a tiny altar and read its entrails.
 
It looks to me that the Lightning cable is connected to white bracket and not AWatch strap. White bracket is housing inductive charging element.
So much for direct connection to mysterious hidden port ;)
 
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