Photoshop / Adobe CS?

bluebird3

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I'm needing a photo shop but if went with adobe CS, it would cost me like.... $600? What is Photoshop only program that are cheaper and recommended? Is it the element?

Also, for most photographers, would you recommend 13" rMbp 8gb, 256 flash memory, i5 dual for a student/building a portfolio/possibly contest level of photo producing?
 

firedept

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I'm needing a photo shop but if went with adobe CS, it would cost me like.... $600? What is Photoshop only program that are cheaper and recommended? Is it the element?

Also, for most photographers, would you recommend 13" rMbp 8gb, 256 flash memory, i5 dual for a student/building a portfolio/possibly contest level of photo producing?
The rMBP will work fine. Will run Photoshop easily.

Forget about Adobe CS. It is no longer sold by Adobe. You would need to find it on Ebay and that is risky. They only sell Adobe CC Photoshop, which is subscription based for $9.99/mth and is the full Photoshop. That works out to $120.00/yr. Or Photoshop Elements 12 for $99.99, which is a slightly watered down version of Photoshop.

Elements 12, you pay one time but you do not get the full version of PS, but darn close. CC, you pay monthly, but get full version of PS. Pretty cheap at $120 per year.
 
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glenthompson

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Do you really need photoshop? You might consider Lightroom as an organization tool and it has very good photo editing capabilities.
 

ChrisA

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I'm needing a photo shop but if went with adobe CS, it would cost me like.... $600? What is Photoshop only program that are cheaper and recommended? Is it the element?

Also, for most photographers, would you recommend 13" rMbp 8gb, 256 flash memory, i5 dual for a student/building a portfolio/possibly contest level of photo producing?
Get Adobe Photoshop Elements. It has all the photo editing features from PS.

The computer you listed above is fine but I think you'd want a larger monitor. Also if you are doing Photoshop level edits (rather then adjustments with Aperture/Lightroom) you might want a Wacom graphic tablet. it is REALLY had to edit with a touch pad.

Many time Wacom bundles in a free copy of PS Elements.

You will quickly fill up the 256G flash. You would want a much larger external disk for a large library of photos and and even bigger disk for Time machine backups and more disks for off site backups that get rotated.

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Do you really need photoshop? You might consider Lightroom as an organization tool and it has very good photo editing capabilities.
That is a good question that I would also ask. The way to decide is if you are making over all adjustments and small "touch up" corrections then LR is good.

PS is for making changes to the content of an image, lifting an object out of one images and placing it another or doing sophisticated edits that use multiple layers. For layers you need PS.
 

seadragon

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At $120 per year, I think the CC Photography plan that includes the full blown PS is a good deal and I signed up for it.
 
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bhtwo

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Adobe were offering CS2 for free a while ago...comes with ImageReady.

I know it's not CS6 but it's workable.
 

Bending Pixels

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I know it's not CS6 but it's workable.
CS2 is not really "workable" as it doesn't include support for the latest cameras.

Lightroom 5 is available either as a retail purchase, or included in the Creative Cloud Photography program at $9.99 a month. Although some may whine about "renting" your software, given that Adobe has regularly provided usable enhancements, and that it includes Lightroom Mobile, it's a decent deal.
 

bhtwo

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CS3 was the first photoshop to support intel on mac. You might want to research things before being rude to other members because your the one thats wrong here.
I'm on Intel running CS2 and CS5, it is you who needs to research.

No rudeness intended. Hair on keep.

Camera Raw plug-in 3.7 is the last for CS2... There is a list of supported cameras.
 
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bhtwo

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I'm way out of date... 10.6.8

My mini is only 32 bit.

CS5 is the best I can go on it.

There's the rub I guess.

Found this on Apple support...

"No software from the Adobe CS2 series will run directly on Mavericks.
Adobe CS3 through current CC versions Will run on OS X Mavericks.
If you can't afford to update to any newer versions of Adobe Creative Suite, you can run Adode CS2 version on Mavericks by purchasing and using Virtual machine software like Virtual Box ( free, open source software) Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion and purchasing, installing running OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard server inside the virtual machine software, then install Adobe CS2 into OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Server.
Contact Apple sales at 1-800-MYAPPLE and ask for software sales and ask to purchase a version of Snow Leopard Server. It is only $19.99 USD?"

Back on topic...

Pixelmator is a pretty neat alternative to PS, and it will open RAW NEF.
 
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Kissaragi

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I'm on Intel running CS2 and CS5, it is you who needs to research.

No rudeness intended. Hair on keep.

Camera Raw plug-in 3.7 is the last for CS2... There is a list of supported cameras.
So you must be running snow leopard or earlier as that was the last OSX to support PPC applications which is what CS2 is.

In other words, your running it on Rosetta just as the previous posters stated you needed and you declared was 'nonsense'.

Theres no debate on this, CS2 is a PPC application, PPC support ended with the introduction of lion.
 

bhtwo

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I didn't know it was running off of Rosetta... why would I need to check?

No need to get all huffy...

I apologize.
 
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bluebird3

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Do you really need photoshop? You might consider Lightroom as an organization tool and it has very good photo editing capabilities.
I think I do, although, I haven't heard of the other program. Mmmmm not sure what you do, more options.

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The rMBP will work fine. Will run Photoshop easily.

Forget about Adobe CS. It is no longer sold by Adobe. You would need to find it on Ebay and that is risky. They only sell Adobe CC Photoshop, which is subscription based for $9.99/mth and is the full Photoshop. That works out to $120.00/yr. Or Photoshop Elements 12 for $99.99, which is a slightly watered down version of Photoshop.

Elements 12, you pay one time but you do not get the full version of PS, but darn close. CC, you pay monthly, but get full version of PS. Pretty cheap at $120 per year.
What's the benefit of the subscription compare to buying a software one time? What happens at the end of subscription ?
 

bluebird3

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Which screen size does most photographers use? And may I ask why?

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At the end of a subscription you either renew it, or have no photoshop.
What about upgrade version ? I guess after one year, you can upgrade and continue with the subscription with the same? price? I wonder if I should just go with the element...
 

bhtwo

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I used a Formac Gallery 2010 for many years... fizzed out... now I'm back on my old 19" Philips CRT... is okay.

As far as PS goes there is GIMP, free... has a forum for photography.
 

Kebabselector

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Which screen size does most photographers use? And may I ask why?
Current got an old Samsung 1600x1050 display - which is fine at the moment. I'd get a bigger one, but the queue for my money is long!

What about upgrade version ? I guess after one year, you can upgrade and continue with the subscription with the same? price? I wonder if I should just go with the element...
There is no upgrade anymore, with the subscription you automatically get the new versions when available. At the moment the CC+LR photographers subscription is well worth the money, so long as Adobe keep this price low then it'll be a win for all of us.

I'm no fan of renting software, but £100 per year is much better value if you are one of those that tends to upgrade. My 12-18 month upgrade of Lightroom was normally around £60 so for a little bit more I get Photoshop.