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Photoshop CS5 liquify horribly slow.

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ZebraineZ

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Hey, I finally saved enough money for PSCS5 and got it :D was recently using a cracked cs4, shame me.

Now I have a 08umb, and I bought cs5 for my mac, and the thing is is that everything works fine, except liquefy is just lag heaven.

Now, I tried liquify on a small blank image with 1 line on it on cs4 and it worked flawless, I tried the same thing on windows BC on a cs5 trial and it was noticeably slower, and I tried the same thing on CS5 mac and it was just a horrible lag, I don't know what to do because I don't know what the problem is, everything is untouched and new, the same settings and everything and it just doesn't work.

I take a lot of photographs of models and their faces and stuff and I use the liquefy tool on like 60% of my work, a little facelift and nose job here and there... it's a shame because it's painfully slow and it's sad that I might regret this purchase on such a small tool that doesn't work that I really need compared to many other new tools that also help me a bunch now.

Please help if you can :( I thought cs5 would have tons of improvements, I don't see why it's acting like this, especially if I didn't even change anything, it's sad that cs4 worked out of the box and this didn't...
 
Wanted to chime in. I'm running PS CS5 on my new MBP i7 and the liquefy tool is laggy for some reason. I'm not sure if it's a setting I missed or maybe my preferences are wrong. Seems to be off... i.e. I make a brushstroke (on my tablet) and have to wait to see the effects.

Please advise if anyone has any suggestions.
 
Preferences are the same exactly as CS4, nothing new, and all of them are set to their default settings, so I know it isn't something I changed.

It's just odd that it's only the liquefy option that is choppy and not real time and all the other options are smooth if not much improved over previous versions.

Is it a bug?

System shouldn't be a problem as it works fine on CS4, and CS5 was written for better optimization on Mac's so it should actually be much better on my Mac (which isn't even old) rather then worse. Especially graphic intensive features that already worked fine.
 
I feel compelled to chime in. My experience is the same. I've been playing around with preferences and I can't get liquify to work properly to save my life. It's like I draw a line and then wait for the effect, and draw again and slowly I'll see the effect come in. I can't help but feel this is on purpose and I just missed a setting but I can't find it.

Unfortunately CS5 is so new not enough people have had enough experience to chime in about this... soon I hope.

I do feel that overall CS5 is not nearly as snappy as CS4... dunno why.

Charles
 
Hi there, for me as well, Liquify in CS5 is horribly slow. So slow that it's impossible to use, it keeps liquifying even after i've lifted my tabled like 30 seconds ago. Terrible thing, and interestingly they haven't added any feature to Liquefy, so I can't see what justifies it's slowness.

Have you noticed that panning (especially flick-panning) is extremely laggy as well? Oh and when you flick-pan, and you let go, and the canvas is still moving, you can no longer zoom in and out with the keyboard? It annoys the hell out of me.

I just used the trial for CS5 so I won't regret going back to CS4!

If anyone has a solution to this, please, keep us updated!
 
baryon said:
Hi there, for me as well, Liquefy in CS5 is horribly slow. So slow that it's impossible to use, it keeps liquefying even after i've lifted my tabled like 30 seconds ago. Terrible thing, and interestingly they haven't added any feature to Liquefy, so I can't see what justifies it's slowness.

Have you noticed that panning (especially flick-panning) is extremely laggy as well? Oh and when you flick-pan, and you let go, and the canvas is still moving, you can no longer zoom in and out with the keyboard? It annoys the hell out of me.

I just used the trial for CS5 so I won't regret going back to CS4!

If anyone has a solution to this, please, keep us updated!
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Strange, not too long ago it magically started working perfectly no lag, and then it started crapping out again...and I didn't change anything.

The only legit reason I can think of is image size and cache and even then it shouldn't be a problem with default settings and a small image.
 
ZebraineZ said:
Strange, not too long ago it magically started working perfectly no lag, and then it started crapping out again...and I didn't change anything.

The only legit reason I can think of is image size and cache and even then it shouldn't be a problem with default settings and a small image.
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Yes, I have CS3, CS4 and CS5 all installed on the same machine. I can open the same file on all three at the same time, and CS3 is always the fastest at doing everything (liquefy is great, panning is in real-time and very responsive). CS4 is still acceptable, a tiny bit slower but I can live with that, however, CS5 is horribly slow at liquefy, even the most basic thing I do causes it to lag behind by 10 seconds or more. Unusable! Panning around is much slower than CS4, but I can live with it, even if it annoys me. I like to feel that what I do gets done instantly, especially for simple things like panning. But since I know that liquefy can run perfectly fast on my computer, as demonstrated by CS3 and CS4, I can't understand why the exact same plugin (same version, too) is so much slower.

I posted on John Nack's blog about it, and they said that this isn't normal and something probably went wrong with my system or my install. I don't know whether I should believe this though, here's the quote form the blog:

Chris Cox — 9:47 PM on May 7, 2010
If you are seeing CS5 run that slow, something is very wrong with your system or the install. And I'm amazed that you would assume that this was some sort of known problem.

Other users are seeing CS5 32 bit run about the same speed as CS4, or 64 bit running a bit faster (without going to large documents where 64 bit just rocks).

Please post your question on the Adobe user forums, and give more details about what you have been seeing. Between the Adobe staff and other users there, we can probably figure out what is slowing your system down so badly.
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Processing RAW

I'm noticing extreme lag as well when adjusting levels on my RAW files in cs5 vs cs4 as well. Since this primarily what i use photoshop for, I cannot justify the upgrade. Its a shame, because otherwise, cs5 seems quite fast.
 
baryon said:
Here's the official answer from Adobe:



Taken from this topic on the Adobe Forums:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2797165#2797165

Lets hope they're really working on it and that we see an update soon. In the meanwhile, I would appreciate any workaround if anyone can figure one out!
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Lol thanks :p all we can do is hope I guess, either they really are aware and are fixing it (which shouldn't even take long) but knowing Adobe who knows what trick they might pull.

They might even release CS6 fixing this 'bug' and saying tons of bs about why to upgrade...
 
Yes I've never really seen Adobe releasing an update that actually fixes a bug that I noticed in any versions of Photoshop so far! I'll just stick with CS4 until this gets fixed and check CS5 updates from time to time :)

Oh by the way, here is what Chris Cox said first:

If you are seeing CS5 run that slow, something is very wrong with your system or the install. And I'm amazed that you would assume that this was some sort of known problem.

Other users are seeing CS5 32 bit run about the same speed as CS4, or 64 bit running a bit faster (without going to large documents where 64 bit just rocks).

Please post your question on the Adobe user forums, and give more details about what you have been seeing. Between the Adobe staff and other users there, we can probably figure out what is slowing your system down so badly.
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Then he said what I wrote above:
We're aware of the issue, and are currently working to try to get it fixed. Thanks.
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I just find it amusing that he first said he's "amazed" at the fact that I think this is a known issue and that something must be wrong with my system, and then later, the same day, he realised that I was right... Haha...
 
Same here!

Yep, same problems on my end, kinda.
Liquify works like a charm on CS5 on my MacPro at work, however, I get the 10 second lag on my MBP at home. The MP I'm using at work is a first generation intel, and my MBP at home is a 4,1. Thing is, I just wiped my HD at work and basically did a clean install of CS5 and all the other things I use. Performance as a whole on that machine is as if it were brand new. So, that said, it may not be a bad thing to back up your HD (or at least just the stuff on it you want) and give it a good old flushing. Reinstall CS5 plus whatever else floats your boat and let 'er rip. It may be a tall order, but it will probably save a lot of time in the long run. You could run disc repairs to your hearts content, but it won't get you the same results.

In the meantime, here's a quick workaround for liquify that I used in CS4:
Create a duplicate file of the one you're working on in Pshop from your History menu. Go into Image Size and downsize it to 72 dpi. Next, Liquify your brain's out but before you accept changes, save the mesh.
Then hit Ok. Go back to your original HiRes file, choose the same layer and select Liquify. Now, click load mesh and choose the one you just saved and presto. Honestly, it goes quicker than it sounds.

Hope any of this helps.

Cheers.
 
I'm having the same problem too! I've also noticed that the bloat and pucker tools have changed as well. I used to be able to hold them over my image to alter it, now I need to move my mouse around, otherwise it doesn't seem to have an effect!
 
Adobe Posted 12.0.1

This includes an updated Liquify plug-in to address brush performance issues:

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http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4732
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"Adobe Photoshop 12.0.1 update for Adobe Photoshop CS5

The Adobe® Photoshop® CS5 12.0.1 update addresses a number of high priority bugs with 64-bit Mac, Performance, User Interface, Type, Content-Aware Fill, HDR, 3D, Painting, GPU and Liquify implemented after Adobe Photoshop CS5 and Photoshop CS5 Extended (12.0.0) were released.

The most significant fixes in the Photoshop 12.0.1 update include the following:

A number of issues that could cause slow performance have been addressed.
Top crashers found in the field have been addressed.
3D refractions, Ray Tracing and IBL workflows improved.
Out of memory error opening some TIFFs has been addressed.
A crash in Content Aware Fill has been addressed.
Font related crashes have been addressed.
Scroll wheel issue addressed.
A number of user interface and workspace issues addressed.
A number of painting issues addressed, including video layer issue.
Droplet issues addressed."
 
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