Photoshop / Lightroom Feedback

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  1. hypno, Apr 14, 2015
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    hypno macrumors regular

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    Figured a central thread for people to share Photoshop / Lightroom feedback would be good. Here are some of my thoughts:

    1) I have the base model 1.1 / 256 SG. I often take my Mindshift Panoramo with me for weekend trips and the MBR fits pretty nicely in the top pouch along with my lenses. It sticks out about 1 - 1.5" over the top, but the case zips fine. Needless to say I'll always have the MBR in the field with me - likely in a leather sleeve inside my Mindshift.

    2) I spend a lot of time post processing. I am not a pro by any stretch, but I also think I have enough nice images to be deemed credible. I started playing with some RAW files today in Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop and I would never describe any of the process as slow or sluggish. Re-applications of Camera RAW Filter on new layers, merge into new layer, etc. is either instant or takes seconds on a 20MP image.

    3) More destructive techniques (i.e. 50% gray dodge and burning) is instant as I expected. I don't have my Wacom plugged in, but I would have absolutely no problem running through this part of my workflow on this device.

    4) Auto-align of 4 stacked 20MP images (i.e. for focal stacking) was maybe a 5 second process. I will do some more complex tests with 10 + image auto aligns later.

    So fairly quick impression to me is the whole "not good for Photoshop" comment in a lot of these reviews was more of reviewers sticking to the narrative of "mobile CPUs cannot be good for this" than anything. This is the part of my workflow I was most interested in because if I can make this work then I knew I could rely on this in the field instead of the MBPR, which doesn't fit in my small Mindshift bag.

    A few disclaimers/next steps:

    1. Clearly Lightroom is going to tax the system more if you start getting heavy with the tools on an image. I just use Lightroom for the initial publish (essentially the equivalent of Adobe Camera RAW) and then take it into PS from there so I'm less sensitive to this. I will still do more LR edits to see limitations.

    2. I didn't buy a USB adapter so haven't tested my Wacom, but I doubt it's going to be much of a negative surprise from what I'm seeing.

    3. Most importantly, I did not buy this laptop with the purpose of being my only device for photo editing. It is something small and light I can take with me in the field and on weekend trips when I am short on room so I can avoid checking luggage / keep my camera bag with me at all times. Even with a MBPR today, I always work the final image on my iMac 27".

    4. I also ordered a 1.3/256 just in case, but my gut feel right now is I'll be canceling that order. I am not seeing a lot that leads me to think the 1.1 won't be a perfectly capable field machine for photography. I have 14 days to determine... ;)

    I'll add more later as I try and find the limitations. Hopefully others do too.
     
  2. 13aines macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    I have nothing to say about the new Macbook, as someone who has only just got their first Mac in the form of a second hand 2014 Air, but I just wanted to say your pictures are fantastic.

    Would it be possible to get my hands on The Tree 3, Serene South Sister, Paradise Indeed, Layers, and Second Chances for use as wallpapers by any chance? They're beautiful images.

    Thanks in advance!

    Matt
     
  3. hypno thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yup no problem at all. I will DM you a link later where you can grab them.
     
  4. gugy macrumors 68030

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    Thanks for the feedback.
    I am a graphic designer and I am curious about this computer. I need something for emergency work while on the road. Most of my work will be at my MacPro but sometime something comes up that need a fix, so I am thinking about the rMB.

    I think the definite test will purchase this machine and do some work on it to figure out under my environment this will be OK. But I am happy to know the initial feedback like ours has been positive.
     
  5. ryanbates macrumors regular

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    Thank you for this post. I'm a photographer and I edit a good majority of my images in LR with some light Photoshop. Glad to hear this can handle RAW images.
     
  6. newellj macrumors 601

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    Great post, thanks.

    Anandtech says this is one of the best displays they've seen in a retina MacBook.

    I'm going to try a big export on my rMB and see how it compares to the same task on my rMBP some time this week.
     
  7. c.s. macrumors regular

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    Appreciate your thoughts. How is the screen real estate in Photoshop? Obviously the menus in Adobe software take up a ton of room, so my biggest concern isn't the performance but if I'm going to be straining to really see and make edits. This would be a secondary machine to my retina iMac. So I don't really need a MBP but I like the size of the 15" screen.
     
  8. hypno thread starter macrumors regular

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    It definitely is a big benefit to be proficient keyboard shortcuts and also shrink your adobe workspace menu's to an icon size where they expand into the full menu on click rather than always apparent. Make no mistake you'll be zooming in and out a lot more for detail work (i.e. an example for me is detail work on wildflowers for example), but I personally don't have an issue with this because the keyboard shortcuts or trackpad gestures make this pretty easy for me.

    My gut feel right now is probably somewhere around 3-5 image focal stack with average detail masking requirements to merge into one image is probably getting toward the boundaries of where I'd consider using this machine to actually publicly release a "100%" post processed image. Images where I have 10 + stacks and individual flowers or other exhaustive detail work like precisision masking to ensure sharpness throughout the full frame would be something I'd just pull into my iMac at that point.

    The reality is for me I'd pull most images into the iMac no matter what because the hours I spend post processing it is just way more comfortable at my desktop with all my peripherals than I ever find a laptop to be. This extends to every laptop Apple offers because none can compete with the 27".

    The best way I can explain how I see myself using this machine is always having a razor sharp screen with adequate power to run say 60% of my post processing workflow while I'm out in the field...whether that's literally a field or a coffee shop on a quick weekend photo trip. My goal would be to get an idea of what I've got with a set of images. Do I want to go back and retry a scene at sunrise/sunet, or can I move on to another location because I nailed it? The camera itself always gives me a gut feel, but I've been surprised by things I miss once I get them processed in a larger screen. Once again, I'm not a pro and I don't get out 100s a days a year so I think having this with me as a crutch is going to be really nice.
     
  9. coelacanth macrumors 6502

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    Illustrator

    If anyone here using Illustrator extensively, please share your thoughts on the performance.
     
  10. 13aines macrumors newbie

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    Thanks a lot! :) - as i'm new here I don't think I can receive forum messages, but I think I have set my profile up so you can email me.

    Thanks again. Enjoy your new toy :)

    Matt
     
  11. c.s. macrumors regular

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    How's it going, now that you've had a few days to get a feel for using Photoshop on it? Still a bit worried about screen real estate and responsiveness of editing, even though it would be a secondary machine. I've always been fine using the 15" retina if I only have to spend an hour or two on it. Otherwise I start to feel cramped and just wait to get on my iMac. I don't want to be squinting and hunched over. At least on the 15 I can sit back a little.
     
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  13. thedeske macrumors 6502a

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    Many Thanks - Having serviced/supported a few few travelers, the issues are always Weight (MBPro is too heavy) & Lack of a good Viewing Screen when you get light, ala Macbook Air. Many are thinking the same thing - "Is this a solution?" Even in first gen, it could be.

    As I stated in another string, all the people I deal with use Lightroom on the road/tour and mostly Cull in Library while out. They all know the "hit" in Develop on a low powered machine.
     

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