I'm used to Photoshop, CS4, works great. I need it for an upgraded computer, too, but can't use the same one, gotta be a newer. version. I can't bring myself to buy the creative cloud subscription-- had a lot of trouble just installing the stupid trial version, I don't trust them trying to deal with the real thing on an ongoing basis. What I really want is to buy the disc, the one on a CD, and skip Adobe's subscription scam. So.....Does anyone know where a good source is for buying Photoshop on a CD that isn't $700 and will work on Sierra? (Third party sellers?) I don't know why this should be so difficult but it is. (I've considered eBay, but heard many of those are bootlegged, look like the real thing, and can cause even more problems.) Any advice is very much appreciated! N.