Photoshop Yearbook!?

Discussion in 'Design and Graphics' started by oli2140, May 1, 2009.

  1. oli2140 macrumors 6502

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    Hi,

    I am trying to create a yearbook in Photoshop :eek:...


    Here is the school's plan:

    Students send a folder containing:

    A text file where their entry, DOB, phone no. etc is placed in allocated spaces. (Not finalised - are separate files better)

    A specific sized image of themselves in a photo

    Four other specific sized photos containing that particular person and some of their friends.


    Somehow, all of this info must be put into the photoshop file with as little effort as possible!

    I really have no experience with this kind of thing in photoshop so any advice is beneficial, thanks!
     
  2. heehee macrumors 68020

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    Photoshop is an image manipulation program. It's not made for these. You want a layout program like Quark or InDesign. :)
     
  3. oli2140 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yep I did realise InDesign was what I should be using and the trial has just finished downloading. I just don't really want to buy it since I plan to be sticking to Image Manipulation in the future!

    The reason I started this thread was because I can remember seeing a tutorial somewhere on how to automate adding text to photoshop images - is this possible or was I misunderstood?
     
  4. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

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    I did yearbook for two years. You have to do it on Indesign. It will save you so much trouble.

    Who is going to print your books, is it Jostens?
     
  5. wongulous macrumors 6502a

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    Lol. You're warezing InDesign because you don't feel like buying it... when you're working for an educational institution that either already has copies or can get them for pennies... and then you're coming here asking for help when you've never even used it before. Nice.
     
  6. jmann macrumors 604

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    Is the school relying solely on you? :rolleyes: I hope you have additional help.
     
  7. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    I feel sorry for you if you have more than one spread and you use photoshop. It will be a headache since photoshop doesnt have any kind of pages like indesign. You would end up with 50 psd files and prob GBs of files. Basically a HUGE/UNNECESSARY headache.
     
  8. Kwill macrumors 68000

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    Yes, automatic photo and type insertion is possible with Photoshop. You can find the info in Speed Clinic by Matt Kloskowski. Nevertheless, as others have pointed out, unless this "yearBOOK" is actually published online, you'd be better off using a page-layout application like InDesign. (Frankly, as I think of perfect binding, page creep, chapters, table of contents, database plugins and proofing, it sounds like you are in way over your head.)
     
  9. heehee macrumors 68020

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    That's like saying you would rather walk to the nearest city that's 200 miles away instead of taking the train/bus or driving cause you don't have the money or you plan on walking your whole life. Is it doable? Yes. Is it wise to do it? No. ;)
     
  10. BJMRamage macrumors 68020

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    maybe something really simple would be a batch "Contact Sheet2" uner automation or something aroiund there. Name the file the person's name and it will write it underneath.

    Solution? No, it is a mere band-aid on a cut off leg.

    Bestsolution is InDesign, maybe Quark (ugg) or Pagemaker (old ugg)
     
  11. oli2140 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Haha, firstly I'm not 'warezing' anything - simply downloading a trial off the official website. Secondly, I never asked for help on InDesign, I know how to use InDesign just don't have a copy available on Mac. Read before you jump to conclusions.

    Yep I was originally going to use InDesign but just wanted to know if this was possible on Photoshop first - All of the school computers have Photoshop and I thought if it was relatively simple I could get the rest of the Yearbook team to do the 'content insertion' for me ;)

    Thanks I'll have a look

    I have already have InDesign on my (Windows) home computer and I know it should be used - I just wanted to know how feasible doing something like this would be using a piece of software available on all school computers!


    To summarise I know that InDesign is the correct software to use! Unfortunately the school does not have InDesign (only photoshop) and I did not want to be the only person making the actual book!
     
  12. flrazor macrumors member

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    This screams nightmare to me.

    I was the computer editor for my HS yearbook for three years and work for a commercial printer as a designer and prepress op. I see what you're trying to do, and all I can say is I hope you know what you're in for.

    To second a question asked earlier, who is publishing your book for you? Are you using a publisher that does yearbooks all the time (Jostens, Taylor, etc.) or are you doing this all locally with a Kinko's or local copy place?

    You have a good idea letting people basically do their own layout work for you, but you've got to have a more strict guideline with regards to specs. You've got to have a base resolution for printing all these "pages" otherwise you're going to be getting a stack of 72 dpi web photos and clipart that looks terrible in print. Also, you'll have to do a lot more work making sure that no one is doing anything in their pages that could get you in serious trouble (racist remarks, threats, images of illegal activities, etc.). It sounds silly, but it happens. And from a prepress standpoint, you'll either have to limit your submissions to a pre-set series of fonts, or have your submissions rasterized (not editable) before you or anyone else gets them since they'll get replaced or look completely different if someone down the line doesn't have all the same fonts or different versions. Nothing like getting someone screaming in your ear that it looks nothing like they wanted and you've "ruined all their hard work".

    Regardless, good luck, it sounds like you're creating a lot more end-work for yourself by letting other people do what you're thinking is the hard work up front.
     
  13. oli2140 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply.

    I believe that the printing company has not been decided yet, being in the UK I would predict that a generalised printing company (online or otherwise) will be asked to print the Yearbook. Would you say it is much better to go through a company specialising in yearbooks?

    I have actually designed the layout already (see attached). This design has been put together in Photoshop (300dpi CMYK) as well as being pulled apart and rebuilt built in InDesign. Students are actually quite limited on the content they can put up - Profile images will be cropped and placed in the 'photo' placeholder in the box and further photos will be placed in the photo 'bar' beneath each profile. In the white box their flag will be placed in the top right (it's a very international school) and 'Time joined' and 'Nationality' will be placed as shown. Students can then write whatever they want in the space below this assuming it fits in, font and colour cannot be chosen.

    As for the photos, a teacher goes through all of these to check for inappropriate activities etc. and we are doing our best to ensure students send them in as high quality as possible (i.e no facebook photos!).

    Do you have any suggestions on the best way to enter all of this data and perhaps in what form students should submit it in? As stated previously we are just using last years idea of sending a specifically named folder (Name-Surname-House) with their photos and a text file in but this can be changed if it makes it easier to input all the photos and text later into the yearbook!
     

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  14. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

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    Use indesign. Make two page spread files. Assign the files to each staff member.
     
  15. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    Jostens (and possibly other yearbook vendors) have a web-based equivalent to InDesign that you get access to in order to lay out your project. That would solve a lot of your problems right there.

    That being said, I really hope this isn't something you're trying to get produced before August or September.
     
  16. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

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    Are the web-based stuff as good as InDesign? I did it three years ago in high school. It was the year before they had the web version.
     
  17. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    Having tinkered with the web-based program a little bit, it surprised me how good it was. No - it doesn't have the power that ID and Quark do, but it's significantly more powerful than Pagemaker or Publisher. For a yearbook, it's got exactly what one would need. Ability to index, let students edit pages, lock/hide pages from students, competent legitimate fonts, color scheme implementation, and template design, just to name a few.
     
  18. techfreak85 macrumors 68040

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    We used Quark Express for layout and Photoshop for photo editing, resizing, etc. If you are using Jostins, you will want to use their yearbook ave thing.
     
  19. flrazor macrumors member

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    It's really up to how much investment you're willing to put into your book and what kind of product you're looking to get out of it. I'd encourage you to do some research and solicit estimates for what you're interested in. Many online or small printers won't do hardcover book printing without a long and/or expensive process to produce them (most likely through another printer). If you go through a yearbook vendor they will take care of the production for you, you just need to provide them with your files. Jostens was a mess in the days I worked on my HS yearbook, so we went with Taylor Corp (from the US). Jostens typically has really restrictive contracts, so be very careful what you get into with them. They'll want your school to do EVERYTHING with them or pay them more money to only do certain stuff.

    Really the best way to get in in the book is either to do it yourself or with a small group of trained people helping you, or to have the artwork ready-to-go from Photoshop and all you will do afterwards is to place them in the pages. I'd recommend the former since you'll get into more hassle trying to make sure all the files are print-ready if everyone else does them themselves. You know exactly what you need, and no matter how good your instructions are, someone will always screw it up.
     
  20. iPenguin macrumors newbie

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    So based on your layout, you're not really doing a yearbook, but more a contact book. Unless you have spreads for sports/features/clubs/index etc?
     
  21. oli2140 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    For the first half it will be more like a contact book, the last half will have pages for clubs, school balls, polls and house pages etc.
     
  22. A Belling macrumors newbie

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    I also did 2 years of yearbook, and you will need to use InDesign, there is no way you can easily do the layout you need in Photoshop. But, of course, best of luck!
     

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