Picked up Series 2 Nike Watch MEH!

[cmbauer]

So I have a Series 0 that works great. Bought a knock off volt green band and I was pretty satisfied. However I keep looking on iStock and then all of a sudden a series 2 nike with the black and volt band popped up at an Apple Store down the street from my work. I impulse bought it and have been using it for a couple days. For me and what I use the watch for I think the series 0 might be good enough. Here is a list

What I use it for - I charge in the morning while showering and then around 8pm when getting ready for bed. Never ran out of juice
- Notifications
- Sleep Monitoring
- Silent Alarm - I go to Crossfit every morning and wake up at 415am, dont want to wake up the better half or the kids
- Use Under Armour to record crossfit workouts and running 3 times a week
- Filling the rings everyday
- I dont use alot of apps so speed of software is not really needed or noted much

What I like about the Nike

- Battery is nice not having to charge it.
- GPS is cool, but I bring my phone with on runs so not really needed
- Waterproof- I dont so much swim as I do float. I take my watch off anyways when I shower
- I love the band, it feels a little different than my knock off and the color is brighter.
- Nike Watch faces with matching colors is another cool thing

SO bottom line, I threw my series 0 on craigslist for 200 with everything and about 8 bands. I would probably take 180 have had a few bites. Will try for a couple more days then if it doesnt sell I will return the Nike one.

just thought I would throw this out there for anyone thinking of upgrading. I am usually a gadget geek that wants the latest and greatest. But in this case, I am not sold that its that great of an upgrade.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I personally am sold that Series 1/2 is a great upgrade over Series 0.

I actually returned my Series 0 AW running watchOS1 last year for the following reasons:
- It was tragically slow. It was just faster to pull out the phone to respond to notifications
- Battery life was meh
- Not water-proof, so I was constantly worrying about it
- Screen wasn't bright enough in the daytime
- No GPS meant I couldn't completely depend on it for activity tracking outside

Series 2 ticks every single one of these boxes. Every time I use somebody's Series 0 Watch, I am appalled by how relatively choppy it is and how long it takes to do simple tasks. I understand if you're not an app-heavy person that you may not have noticed the performance difference that much, but if you put them side by side and do simple tasks like replying to messages or using Siri, you'd definitely notice the difference there.

 

[cmbauer]

I personally am sold that Series 1/2 is a great upgrade over Series 0.

I actually returned my Series 0 AW running watchOS1 last year for the following reasons:
- It was tragically slow. It was just faster to pull out the phone to respond to notifications
- Battery life was meh
- Not water-proof, so I was constantly worrying about it
- Screen wasn't bright enough in the daytime
- No GPS meant I couldn't completely depend on it for activity tracking outside

Series 2 ticks every single one of these boxes. Every time I use somebody's Series 0 Watch, I am appalled by how relatively choppy it is and how long it takes to do simple tasks. I understand if you're not an app-heavy person that you may not have noticed the performance difference that much, but if you put them side by side and do simple tasks like replying to messages or using Siri, you'd definitely notice the difference there.

I did have some issues with slowness before watchos3, but since then on the series 0 it seems to work pretty decent.

You are probably right, if I used the watch more the upgrade might make sense. But I just havent found any apps that make me want to use the watch for much more than quick glances for texts, setting quick alarms and what I listed.

I love the watch and will continue to use it all day and everyday. Maybe a couple more days and it will be done deal. If someone buys my series 0 I will have no choice but to keep this one! haha

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I did have some issues with slowness before watchos3, but since then on the series 0 it seems to work pretty decent.

You are probably right, if I used the watch more the upgrade might make sense. But I just havent found any apps that make me want to use the watch for much more than quick glances for texts, setting quick alarms and what I listed.

I love the watch and will continue to use it all day and everyday. Maybe a couple more days and it will be done deal. If someone buys my series 0 I will have no choice but to keep this one! haha

Another thing to keep in mind: I bet that when watchOS4 comes out, it will probably require more resources, resulting in Series 0 either not receiving it at all or receiving it but missing features, or just slow in general.

The S1/S2 will be more future proof for sure.

 

[cmbauer]

Another thing to keep in mind: I bet that when watchOS4 comes out, it will probably require more resources, resulting in Series 0 either not receiving it at all or receiving it but missing features, or just slow in general.

The S1/S2 will be more future proof for sure.

Thats a good point. I run all the newest public betas on the 0 currently. So you may be onto something there

 

[Night Spring]

Not water-proof, so I was constantly worrying about it

There was no need to worry. People have gone swimming with the S0 watch without any ill effects. Getting it a little wet now and then isn't going to affect it at all.

 

[bradbomb]

- Silent Alarm - I go to Crossfit every morning and wake up at 415am, dont want to wake up the better half or the kids
- Use Under Armour to record crossfit workouts and running 3 times a week.

What's the Under Armour App you use to track Crossfit workouts? I have only used "Other" in the Apple Workout app when I go to my 1hr Crossfit class

 

[Suckfest 9001]

There was no need to worry. People have gone swimming with the S0 watch without any ill effects. Getting it a little wet now and then isn't going to affect it at all.

Yeah but it wasn't covered under warranty. There have been many cases of water damaged Apple Watches on the web, so I never wanted to risk it.

 

[cmbauer]

What's the Under Armour App you use to track Crossfit workouts? I have only used "Other" in the Apple Workout app when I go to my 1hr Crossfit class

It's called Record. It has a ton of different categories for workouts. And they go right into health app. I really like the app

 

[01silver4]

There was no need to worry. People have gone swimming with the S0 watch without any ill effects. Getting it a little wet now and then isn't going to affect it at all.

Oh yeah the gineus bar told me this looks like water damage. This is my series 0 after 14months. My wife watch is still going though, but she doesn't shower with hers. I have 42mm SS series 2 on the way though and this time I bought AppleCare+ with it.

 

[Dodgeman]

Yeah, I had picked up a Nike and SB SS. Wasn't sure I if I'd keep either. Put mine on eBay and got a great price. Stick with the Stainless as I like the look better and it a bigger difference as far as looks vs. my SG Sport.
[doublepost=1481258035][/doublepost]What's the Apple stock check site you mentioned in the original post too by the way?

 

[44267547]

Another thing to keep in mind: I bet that when watchOS4 comes out, it will probably require more resources, resulting in Series 0 either not receiving it at all or receiving it but missing features, or just slow in general.

The S1/S2 will be more future proof for sure.

It all depends what What OS 4 will offer. Sadly, there is no such thing as future proofing with technology, as it evolves everyday. That said, Series 1/2 isn't that much Of a significance in difference with speed over the first Generation. And I own both models for comparison. Aside from the application and boot speed, it's snappier in the S1/S2, but nothing to the point of where it's a major leap or a large advantage.

The real selling points for the Series 1/2 is the water proofing and GPS. The Series 2 does have a 30% larger battery, which is nice.

My prediction is Watch OS4 will be suitable for Gen 1. The real difference will be in March 2018 when Gen three debuts. Likely a big leap in power, battery, screen variant and redesign.

 

[Dodgeman]

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Oh yeah the gineus bar told me this looks like water damage. This is my series 0 after 14months. My wife watch is still going though, but she doesn't shower with hers. I have 42mm SS series 2 on the way though and this time I bought AppleCare+ with it.

Got another Stainless huh? Are you going to keep the white and at first or swap it out ASAP?
Your watch did you shower with it? Maybe it is in fact water damage?
I still didn't add AC and doubt I will personally.

 

[44267547]

Got another Stainless huh? Are you going to keep the white and at first or swap it out ASAP?
Your watch did you shower with it? Maybe it is in fact water damage?
I still didn't add AC and doubt I will personally.

I believe he stated he showered with his First Generation Watch and it ruined the display. And then he opted for Nike Watch, but optedfor the stainless instead.

 

[cmbauer]

Well I ended up keeping the Series 2 Volt Nike Watch. I was able to get $200 for my Series 0. So I was deciding between the Series 1 and the 2.

The series 1 would have only been like $40 out of pocket. Since I didnt need the GPS or Waterproofing that seemed to make more sense

The series 2 had all this above PLUS had the super cool watch bands and faces. So I sucked up the $240 upgrade.

As with alot of apple fan boys, have the latest and greatest from them is an addiction!

Oh and I showered with the series 2 and that was a little strange, since I never did with my series 0

 

[Eduardboon]

Well I ended up keeping the Series 2 Volt Nike Watch. I was able to get $200 for my Series 0. So I was deciding between the Series 1 and the 2.

The series 1 would have only been like $40 out of pocket. Since I didnt need the GPS or Waterproofing that seemed to make more sense

The series 2 had all this above PLUS had the super cool watch bands and faces. So I sucked up the $240 upgrade.

As with alot of apple fan boys, have the latest and greatest from them is an addiction!

Oh and I showered with the series 2 and that was a little strange, since I never did with my series 0

Yeah I don't think I would shower with the series 2 anyway. Apple states that Shampoos can harm the materials and make it less waterproof.

 

[44267547]

Yeah I don't think I would shower with the series 2 anyway. Apple states that Shampoos can harm the materials and make it less waterproof.

It can't actually break down the seals over time if not cleaned properly.

 

[perezr10]

Well I ended up keeping the Series 2 Volt Nike Watch. I was able to get $200 for my Series 0. So I was deciding between the Series 1 and the 2.

The series 1 would have only been like $40 out of pocket. Since I didnt need the GPS or Waterproofing that seemed to make more sense

The series 2 had all this above PLUS had the super cool watch bands and faces. So I sucked up the $240 upgrade.

As with alot of apple fan boys, have the latest and greatest from them is an addiction!

Oh and I showered with the series 2 and that was a little strange, since I never did with my series 0

I'm like you. I enjoyed the upgrade because the Series 2 is better and it's nice having the best possible experience. However, the "better" stuff has nothing to do with speed for me. I like the brighter screen and the GPS makes maps much more useable.

I'm a heavy watch user and I barely notice the speed increases that everyone else seems to. If you use the stock Apple watch apps of Messages, Reminders, Activity, and Weather then you will not see much difference between Series 0 and 2. I even went back and forth for a week of alternating days of using my Series 0 and 2. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the two. Watch OS 3 was a huge improvement for the Series 0 and the Series 2 still bogs down sometimes.

 

[cmbauer]

I'm like you. I enjoyed the upgrade because the Series 2 is better and it's nice having the best possible experience. However, the "better" stuff has nothing to do with speed for me. I like the brighter screen and the GPS makes maps much more useable.

I'm a heavy watch user and I barely notice the speed increases that everyone else seems to. If you use the stock Apple watch apps of Messages, Reminders, Activity, and Weather then you will not see much difference between Series 0 and 2. I even went back and forth for a week of alternating days of using my Series 0 and 2. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the two. Watch OS 3 was a huge improvement for the Series 0 and the Series 2 still bogs down sometimes.

Interesting take on it. Like I said I dont use any other 3rd party apps beside Under Armour Record and that works just fine.

I have tried using the Nike Run app twice now and it was a cluster each time. Could be user error but I just switched to the stock workout app for those runs and it was just fine.

I do love the Nike Watch faces though. Wish I could have gotten those on my 0

 

[Dodgeman]

Maybe it's the way I use my watch but I can't tell much difference between the too.
I'm happy with the Watch as I was before. I did want the water proofing and I wanted the Stainless black.

 

[44267547]

I'm like you. I enjoyed the upgrade because the Series 2 is better and it's nice having the best possible experience. However, the "better" stuff has nothing to do with speed for me. I like the brighter screen and the GPS makes maps much more useable.

I'm a heavy watch user and I barely notice the speed increases that everyone else seems to. If you use the stock Apple watch apps of Messages, Reminders, Activity, and Weather then you will not see much difference between Series 0 and 2. I even went back and forth for a week of alternating days of using my Series 0 and 2. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the two. Watch OS 3 was a huge improvement for the Series 0 and the Series 2 still bogs down sometimes.

This. @Neodym. Most who use the Apple Watch won't observe the speed differences if they use the Watch more so being stock. It's all based on the user and how they choose to use the Watch. Unless you have a lot of applications running on the Series 1/2, the increased speeds are negligible. The S2 processor would likely make a difference with OS updates and start up times. But to upgrade to the S2 processor doesn't offer anything major to offer over the First processor. The Third Gen Watch will likely see the next step for major processor improvement, being more advanced health sensors and power efficiency will play a role.

 

[Neodym]

This. @Neodym. Most who use the Apple Watch won't observe the speed differences if they use the Watch more so being stock. It's all based on the user and how they choose to use the Watch.

Besides the anecdotal complains of my wife about her Series 0 being slowish (even without comparison), I still feel that people who go for a Series 0 now (or recommend it) will be in for an unpleasant surprise in 2017. Even the people who state they don't see much difference, still see _a_ difference already. It may look small today (which is very subjective anyhow), but to me it is a clear indication of the hardware in Series 0 being at it's limit with watchOS3 and not capable of fully supporting the next OS update.

I'd be happy for all the Series 0 owners if Apple proves me wrong and releases a watchOS4 running absolutely fine on Series 0. I just can't believe it and thus my recommendation stands (to whoever reads this): Don't go for a Series 0 anymore, unless you'll find the risk acceptable to become stuck on watchOS3 for (halfway) smooth operation!

 

[44267547]

Besides the anecdotal complains of my wife about her Series 0 being slowish (even without comparison), I still feel that people who go for a Series 0 now (or recommend it) will be in for an unpleasant surprise in 2017. Even the people who state they don't see much difference, still see _a_ difference already. It may look small today (which is very subjective anyhow), but to me it is a clear indication of the hardware in Series 0 being at it's limit with watchOS3 and not capable of fully supporting the next OS update.

I'd be happy for all the Series 0 owners if Apple proves me wrong and releases a watchOS4 running absolutely fine on Series 0. I just can't believe it and thus my recommendation stands (to whoever reads this): Don't go for a Series 0 anymore, unless you'll find the risk acceptable to become stuck on watchOS3 for (halfway) smooth operation!

I can understand not recommending The first Gen Watch, being the natural response would be to suggest the latest models, which are great, and I own various models.

But with the recent sale prices and exact same form factor with the exception of the GPS/Water resistance, I honestly believe the First Gen Watch will suffice through OS 4. And It's to much of the same Watch to justify the same iteration over again. But I have said it countless times, it only matters how the user uses the Apple Watch and it's functions. As if they're not utilizing all the functions or downloading third-party applications, perhaps the Watch does seem faster with watchOS 3.1, where as if they're using more heavily intense the applications or multitasking on the Watch.

And you mentioned your wife has had struggles with the first generation watch struggling through watchOS 3. I would have to see the contradiction is most have seen actually improvement and how it's managed the efficiency with power and the battery. I think the consensus is fair that watchOS 3 .1 has greatly improved the performance of the Watch. As you stated previously, that was based off her anecdotal experience.

If I'm wrong, I'm the first to admit it. But I strongly disagree that watch OS 4 will not be applicable to or capable to the first generation watch.