OLED can get burn-in and a car stereo generally sits on the same screen the entire time you're driving. Some elements like the album art may change, but the general controls are always there and would likely burn in with time.
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Pioneer Releases Wireless CarPlay Systems
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OLED can get burn-in and a car stereo generally sits on the same screen the entire time you're driving. Some elements like the album art may change, but the general controls are always there and would likely burn in with time.
Limited data? Is that still is an issue? Even my 8 and 2 year old kids have unlimited data on “their” old hand me down iPads. Way cheaper than having to add data all the time and perfect for long road trips.
Holy heck, I'm going to second that. I bought a $900 AVIC unit a while ago and it was terrible. It quickly became apparent that we were being leveraged as beta testers for something down the road. But they stopped supporting it far too soon.
I'm hesitant to buy another high-end Pioneer unit any time soon. Their lower-end, lesser-featured stuff is great, though!
I didn’t know this, thanks! My father in law just got a Kenwood Head unit with Apple CarPlay and was debating going wireless. I told him that wireless means more battery, but I didn’t know wireless charging couldn’t keep up.
What’s a USB stick? I revert to telling stories in my head and reading MacRumors...
The $300 price difference between the two receivers largely relates to the type of touchscreen used. Capacitive touchscreens--think of an iPhone--rely on the electrical charge of a finger, and are generally considered to be better than resistive touchscreens, which rely on the physical pressure of a finger or stylus.
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1199-699=$500 difference.
Math is hard.
I’m still on a 30GB family plan. We barely hit 15 total so no use for unlimited for us. If I switch to unlimited, I also lose my discount. So between my discount and the extra cost of unlimited, my bill will be about $50 more. Not worth it in my opinion.
Why on earth do these things still come with cd/dvd drives?
Cause they just know you, being a Commodore fan/user, would ask for it, just like that 8-Track you have banging tunes from 'The Gambler'
lol
I understand. I still get my discount after adding the two additional unlimited iPads. We travel so much that I got tired of having to think about data. The wife and I have ben on unlimited since iPhone 1. I didn't want to even think about it.
I agree. Capacitive touch should be the norm, unless I am missing some attraction to resistive touch screens in automobiles (other than wearing gloves, but even then there are plenty nowadays that are compatible with capacitive touch). I know I disliked the resistive touch in my 2014 Ford Explorer (pre sync 3) but by the 2016 model year it was updated with Sync 3, and capacitive touch. I think most cars nowadays have capacitive touch displays (both mine and my wife's do).
Granted, Pioneer's target market for these radios is presumably not for new cars. With an older vehicle, going from no touch screen at all to even resistive touch is still a big upgrade. Kind of like going from a Sharp Wizard to a Palm Pilot.
Mike
Agree about the battery drain. Heck, even when plugged in, and using Carplay for music and navigating, I might be lucky to charge the phone at all.
I still would like having wireless Carplay though. Unless I am on a longish drive I don't usually plug my iPhone in--often it doesn't leave my pocket. I use my iPhone via Siri eyes free to add reminders and whatnot. But I'd rather full-blown Carplay, since it can show notifications and other features. Not important enough to plug my phone in every time I drive, but if it could be done wirelessly I'd like it. I could still can plug in for longer drives, to avoid battery drain.
Mike
In addition, some of us live somewhere it is cold in the winter and we drive with our gloves on. Resistive touchscreens are good to have.
It is. My JVC CarPlay stereo works when I have my gloves on.
Mine too, and I have a JVC as well. I only got the JVC one because it was the cheapest I could find at the time that had CarPlay in it.
I have 2016 Honda CR-V and installed a Kenwood DMX7704S media center. I used apple CarPlay and it is a great system. Only drawback is when I want to watch a video from my phone, it won’t show on the head unit. The newer Kenwood have the wireless capabilities for Apple CarPlay and it will play YouTube and you can use the Waze app as substitute for the Apple map. By the way, my head unit doesn’t have a dvd or gps on it. I watch movies using 1TB of hard drive with tons of movies. Only gripe is, it doesn’t show the list of all the movies on the screen. You can play it one at a time. Hope you guys have an idea on where the technology is coming for people that have knowledge of electronics. Ciao
Pioneer has joined Alpine as the second electronics maker to release wireless CarPlay systems for aftermarket installation.
AVH-W4400NEX
Introduced at CES 2018 in January, product listings have since confirmed that Pioneer's latest AVH-W4400NEX and AVIC-W8400NEX receivers are capable of not only wired and wireless Android Auto, but also wired and wireless CarPlay, enabling drivers to connect an iPhone to either receiver via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
Receivers with wired implementations require connecting an iPhone with a Lightning to USB cable to access CarPlay functionality.
The lower-end AVH-W4400NEX features a double-DIN design with a seven-inch resistive touchscreen. The receiver has a suggested price of $699.99 in the United States through resellers such as Crutchfield and Sound of Tri-State. It's also available for C$899.99 in Canada via Best Buy's online store.
The higher-end AVH-W8400NEX features a double-DIN design with a seven-inch capacitive touchscreen. The receiver has a suggested price of $1,199.99 in the United States through resellers such as Crutchfield and Sound of Tri-State. It's also available for C$1,399.99 in Canada via Best Buy's online store.
AVH-W8400NEX
The $300 price difference between the two receivers largely relates to the type of touchscreen used. Capacitive touchscreens--think of an iPhone--rely on the electrical charge of a finger, and are generally considered to be better than resistive touchscreens, which rely on the physical pressure of a finger or stylus.
Both receivers feature CD/DVD drives, AM/FM, HD Radio, SiriusXM compatibility, two rear USB-A ports, SD card readers, and hands-free phone calls and music playback via Bluetooth in standard AppRadio Mode.
Alpine released the first aftermarket wireless CarPlay system in June 2017. Its iLX-107 receiver features a seven-inch capacitive touchscreen and is available for a suggested price of $900 in the United States. Wireless CarPlay is also available in select new vehicles from BMW, and Mercedes-Benz starting soon.
Pioneer has also released some wireless CarPlay receivers in Europe, according to the blog CarPlay Life. Thanks to MacRumors reader Dean Cobb.
Article Link: Pioneer Releases Wireless CarPlay Systems
Had it in my old BMW. It was nice not having to plugin each time but it drained things fast.
There are ways to minimize burn-in - such as pixel shifting. Also, in theory, the daytime display would be the approximate inverse of the nighttime display. To the extent the amount of driving done during the day is approximately the same as done at night, it should also mitigate the effect.
They want to route their phone through their car and use it as the hub for all data connections and streaming. I think even $599 is kinda overpriced for something that is basically just a big display for your phone but I get it, you guys suck and want to milk people who have older cars. OK. But you don't have to be a jerk and ship a product in 2018 that uses a resistive display. That's just customer hostile.
I installed (with velcro) an ipad mini 1st gen over the radio of my 2001 ford explorer and connected it via mp3 to cassette adapter, Looks and sounds great and i saved a lot of dough
I installed (with velcro) an ipad mini 1st gen over the radio of my 2001 ford explorer and connected it via mp3 to cassette adapter, Looks and sounds great and i saved a lot of dough
Still needs a knob, IMO - my Pioneer has buttons like this and you have to take your eyes off the road to adjust the volume - can’t “feel” for it like you could with a knob. Any my old car doesn’t have steering wheel controls.
I had a similar experience.
A few years ago on my MR2, the USB stopped working on my head unit, and I was looking into using an iPad as a head unit. The mini fit almost perfectly over top the double-din cutout in the dash trim, and decided to just do the custom work to make it fit.
I purchased an iPad Mini 2, looked into what some other people have done in their cars and before I did the first cut, CarPlay was announced, so I decided to just wait and see what CarPlay was like.
Now, years later, I have been mostly disappointed with CarPlay, it is too limited and buggy. I think I might go ahead with my idea of using an iPad Mini as a head unit.
As some people pointed out already, there are benefits to having a resistive touchscreen. I think my next head unit will be a resistive one.
My JVC doesn’t have any knobs at all. The volume is part of the touch screen and I have no problem adjusting the volume without taking my eyes off he road. It’s not like the volume moves or in the middle, it’s on the left side and no issues. My radio even came with a remote. I don’t use it that often at all, but another option.