Why? In what world is it rational to travel with a device that couldn’t possibly be more explicit in being a home-based product.
Don't you take your 27" iMac on business trips with you and complain you can't use it on the airplane?
Why? In what world is it rational to travel with a device that couldn’t possibly be more explicit in being a home-based product.
Totally agree. But developing a restrictive speaker that absolutely requires WiFi to function is my point of contention.
Why? In what world is it rational to travel with a device that couldn’t possibly be more explicit in being a home-based product.
That's just nonsensical. I pack up my Mac Pro, two 30" monitors, a RAID array, and you wouldn't believe the fuss the flight crew makes when I go to plug in the power strip. The nerve of some people...Don't you take your 27" iMac on business trips with you and complain you can't use it on the airplane?![]()
I hardly think using it in a hotel room is outside the scope of what could be considered normal use.
Can't you just use the Peer-to-Pear airplay on it?I do definitely agree that it’s supposed to be a home based device. Of that there’s no doubt.
But I am thinking of taking mine with me when the wife inevitability drags me off to the caravan several times a year.
I bloody hate it, I wasn’t designed for caravans, I’m too tall to be in a sodding sardine can.
But we were given it as a gift by my in-laws so we’ve got to use the damn thing.
But, one HomePod, one iPhone with unlimited data, my MobileLite as the router, an iPad, a TV and my eReader. I might just survive it this year![]()
Can't you just use the Peer-to-Pear airplay on it?
So AirPods are supposed be used in the air? Just stop. It’s marketed as a speaker.Why? In what world is it rational to travel with a device that couldn’t possibly be more explicit in being a home-based product.
Why? In what world is it rational to travel with a device that couldn’t possibly be more explicit in being a home-based product.
Out of curiosity - when you travel, do you bring any other plug-in appliances that weigh over 5lbs and are larger than a pair of shoes?
I mean, people do sometimes. I've seen people travel with curling irons or hair straighteners. I have a buddy that always has a portable steamer for his clothes. But none of those are over 5lbs (or, 10% of your airline bag check weight limit). I've never seen anyone travel with a clothes iron, for example. I'm sure there are some medical devices some people must travel with that fit this criteria. I've also seen families travel with their kids' game consoles, though I've always thought that defeated the whole point of vacation.
But overall, traveling with a non-portable entertainment appliance is weird. It'd done, but opposite what you said, it's quite abnormal.
Do you understand that a private WiFi network is subject to the restrictions that THE OWNER of the network puts on it? Apple, Amazon, Google don’t have any ability to change that (barring a major contract with a hotel chain explicitly changing their network configurations company wide ).So AirPods are supposed be used in the air? Just stop. It’s marketed as a speaker.
I’ve lived in areas that where all I had was portal based web access, aka free internet. So I’m dumb for expecting my speaker to work?
The fact that I had to visit a friends house to use his WiFi just to perform initial setup is silly. It should work right out of the box!
Requiring an open WiFi network just to play music/initial setup is dumb. Just about as dumb as single player iOS games that require internet to play.
Btw I’m running 11.3 beta 4
I do. I’m probably more tech savvy than you.Do you understand that a private WiFi network is subject to the restrictions that THE OWNER of the network puts on it? Apple, Amazon, Google don’t have any ability to change that (barring a major contract with a hotel change).
It seems to me you’re arguing for something you don’t understand the technological limitations of.
Again though, this marketed as a HOME speaker, not a travel/works in all scenarios device. On top of that you CAN use it as just “a speaker” with airplay, without WiFi.
Dude, I took a trunk completely filled with telescope equipment to South Carolina last year for the solar eclipse. We even had to put the ‘normal’ vacation luggage in the back seat because there was no space left in the trunk. I assure you, a tiny HomePod would be no problem.
You were just subtlety trolling, which was your real point, and isn’t appreciated. Next time don’t post at all if your opting out to help another member and instead criticize.
On another note, I consider myself quite technical savvy - why couldn’t peer to peer be enabled right out of the box? I’m used to apple products being ridiculously easy. Oh well, it works now - I’m happy.
You saying your right, doesn’t make you right pal. It makes you something else.Troll?
Yea, funny how that comment comes up when a person realizes how much real truth there is to what another person says.
Tech savvy?
....still working on getting my Homepod to work on a motorcycle, any ideas?![]()
Troll?
Yea, funny how that comment comes up when a person realizes how much real truth there is to what another person says.
Tech savvy?
....still working on getting my Homepod to work on a motorcycle, any ideas?![]()
Make it not require WiFi? As in, not a smart speaker then?I do. I’m probably more tech savvy than you.
Yet, Apple couldn’t take the time to allow the HomePod to not require WiFi? Or make peer to peer airplay default so no initial setup is needed? Or even allow the portal to be accessed on an iOS device to allow HomePod access to public networks?
Actually I’m a very happy Apple user who expected a setup similar to the rest of his products, easy.
Why not make the speaker ready to play without an open WiFi network requirement out of the box? It just improves the user experience to avoid situations like mine?
Why you feel the need to pressure my opinions down I don’t know![]()
That's just nonsensical. I pack up my Mac Pro, two 30" monitors, a RAID array, and you wouldn't believe the fuss the flight crew makes when I go to plug in the power strip. The nerve of some people...
Make it not require WiFi? As in, not a smart speaker then?
You’re asking why Apple didn’t take the time to address an absolutely absurd use case when the product is explicitly meant to be used in a persons home?
You suggest that peer-to-peer should be the default, because of your usage, which fundamentally knee caps the HomeKit functionality. Why would the default be the functionality that requires the main selling points of the device be disabled by default?
At the end of the day, you’re asking why this product wasn’t designed with a functionality that no smart device ships with, the ability to circumvent network administrator’s explicit network setup.
I’m just pointing out that you’re demanding an entirely different product than what the HomePod is. I’m not the one that made a thread about this, but I can’t shake the feeling that you don’t understand *why* the product doesn’t work on hotel WiFi networks in the first place.You seem passionate, more than me. Sorry if my opinions on a product upset you
The HomePod is a speaker with a digital assistant, you are the one defining what it is.I’m just pointing out that you’re demanding an entirely different product than what the HomePod is. I’m not the one that made a thread about this, but I can’t shake the feeling that you don’t understand *why* the product doesn’t work on hotel WiFi networks in the first place.
I’m just pointing out that you’re demanding an entirely different product than what the HomePod is. I’m not the one that made a thread about this, but I can’t shake the feeling that you don’t understand *why* the product doesn’t work on hotel WiFi networks in the first place.
Do you understand that a private WiFi network is subject to the restrictions that THE OWNER of the network puts on it? Apple, Amazon, Google don’t have any ability to change that (barring a major contract with a hotel chain explicitly changing their network configurations company wide ).
It seems to me you’re arguing for something you don’t understand the technological limitations of.
I never called you dumb, you just seem to not understand what is going on here which is totally fine if you’re not an IT worker.
Again though, this marketed as a HOME speaker, not a travel/works in all scenarios device. On top of that you CAN use it as just “a speaker” with airplay, without WiFi.
He repeatedly expressed his opinion that the device should have *additional* capabilities that no consumer device has (the ability to circumvent network administration security measures) because the device is “expensive”. In return I keep getting told that Apple should have just done it, even though from a technical standpoint it’s simply not possible to do that, aside from intelligence agency equipment. That’s why I kept pushing back on that absurd notion.You’re right, you didn’t make a thread about this, @Amacfa did. He had some questions on how to initially pair the HomePod in the hotel and he got his questions answered. Not sure why you continually keep dismissing he doesn’t understand the HomePod capabilities, when he clearly elaborated that multiple times to you and throughout the thread.
He repeatedly expressed his opinion that the device should have *additional* capabilities that no consumer device has (the ability to circumvent network administration security measures) because the device is “expensive”. In return I keep getting told that Apple should have just done it, even though from a technical standpoint it’s simply not possible to do that, aside from intelligence agency equipment. That’s why I kept pushing back on that absurd notion.