Hemingray
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'Nuff said. Roy was even kind enough to answer an email I sent him! 😎 I support their efforts 100%. Eisner needs to hit the road.
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Pixar dumps Disney
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'Nuff said. Roy was even kind enough to answer an email I sent him! 😎 I support their efforts 100%. Eisner needs to hit the road.
Sol
macrumors 68000
Looking back at all this
Pixar should produce two quickie-sequels to Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc or Finding Nemo to fullfill their seven-picture deal with Disney. Since Disney intends to make their own sequels based on Pixar characters it would be folly for The Incredibles and Cars to become Disney properties.
Having said that, it is propably too late and those unreleased films belong to Disney for good. Pixar will have to start from scratch and watching Disney exploit their creations cannot be good for the talent.
This whole saga would surelly make a good book or movie ten years from now. Mark Bowden could write it, Will Ferrell could play Michael Eisner and Tom Cruise could play Steve Jobs.
Pixar should produce two quickie-sequels to Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc or Finding Nemo to fullfill their seven-picture deal with Disney. Since Disney intends to make their own sequels based on Pixar characters it would be folly for The Incredibles and Cars to become Disney properties.
Having said that, it is propably too late and those unreleased films belong to Disney for good. Pixar will have to start from scratch and watching Disney exploit their creations cannot be good for the talent.
This whole saga would surelly make a good book or movie ten years from now. Mark Bowden could write it, Will Ferrell could play Michael Eisner and Tom Cruise could play Steve Jobs.
Kingsnapped
macrumors 6502a
To the younger macrumor rats out there, imagine the days where we'll be showing our kids old picures of us at disney world/land and telling them how they used to be a monster corperation.
Really..really.. dumb of Disney. Pixar has the muscle to distribute their films easlily without them now, and maybe even shoot for more markets.
Really..really.. dumb of Disney. Pixar has the muscle to distribute their films easlily without them now, and maybe even shoot for more markets.
Mr. Anderson
Moderator emeritus
The thing is Pixar has made a big enough name for itself, I don't know why they need Disney or anyone else. Distribution/logistics might be the issue, though - and I just hope who ever they make a deal with gets second billing....I never did like seeing Disney's name first in all the movies.
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Jerry Spoon
macrumors 6502a
I see your point, but don't you think Pixar's animation is totally recognizable and people will see whatever the next Pixar/??? feature is and think, "those are the guys who made Finding Nemo"? I don't think the impact will be that bad for Pixar.
absolut_mac
macrumors 6502a
Re: YES!!!!
I remember Disney's legal wranglings with Peggy Lee and how they lied to her, misled her and put up every imaginable (and some that you can't) legal obstacle in order not to pay her what was rightfully hers - as spelled out in her original contract with them.
All this for a measly million dollars that they finally paid her shortly before she died. And the only reason that they finally paid her is because of the bad PR they were getting in withholding royalties from a sickly old lady.
They are a disgusting company not only for what they did to Peggy Lee, and I'm sure many others like her too, but also because they have one of the worst safety records of any amusement park here on the left coast. Refusing to pay for proper equipment maintenance, proper technician training etc etc
Trust me, that ain't no happy friendly mouse, that's a vicious carnivorous rat!!!
I remember Disney's legal wranglings with Peggy Lee and how they lied to her, misled her and put up every imaginable (and some that you can't) legal obstacle in order not to pay her what was rightfully hers - as spelled out in her original contract with them.
All this for a measly million dollars that they finally paid her shortly before she died. And the only reason that they finally paid her is because of the bad PR they were getting in withholding royalties from a sickly old lady.
They are a disgusting company not only for what they did to Peggy Lee, and I'm sure many others like her too, but also because they have one of the worst safety records of any amusement park here on the left coast. Refusing to pay for proper equipment maintenance, proper technician training etc etc
Trust me, that ain't no happy friendly mouse, that's a vicious carnivorous rat!!!
Balin64
macrumors 6502a
Disney?
I am happy to read these news.
Many of my friends are actors.
In 1999, Disney decided to start their own cruise line. Many of my friends were on the maiden voyages as professional comedians and actors. Disney billed the voyage for them as historic, wonderful and an opportunity. They were instead treated like shieat, not given leave as stipulated by contracts or given proper cabins: they had to share rooms with wait staff. Please, not that Kitchen or wait staff is inferior, NO! But what they promised my friends and what they told the "hospitality" staff I am sure is very different. That's why I say: **** Disney. Thank You.
I am happy to read these news.
Many of my friends are actors.
In 1999, Disney decided to start their own cruise line. Many of my friends were on the maiden voyages as professional comedians and actors. Disney billed the voyage for them as historic, wonderful and an opportunity. They were instead treated like shieat, not given leave as stipulated by contracts or given proper cabins: they had to share rooms with wait staff. Please, not that Kitchen or wait staff is inferior, NO! But what they promised my friends and what they told the "hospitality" staff I am sure is very different. That's why I say: **** Disney. Thank You.
Keep it clean, dude.
I agree with your sentiments, but not your use of the language. Arn posted this in the forum rules:
2) The profanity filter is there for a reason. Do not circumvent it. This is actually becoming my biggest pet peeve.
That's a reminder to the rest of you as well . . .
I agree with your sentiments, but not your use of the language. Arn posted this in the forum rules:
2) The profanity filter is there for a reason. Do not circumvent it. This is actually becoming my biggest pet peeve.
That's a reminder to the rest of you as well . . .
Pixar sequels?
Unfortunately, the five-picture contract (signed after Toy Story I) does not include sequels (like Toy Story II). That's why Disney gets a total of seven Pixar flicks for their own sequel-spewing animation mill.
So Disney has The Incredibles and Cars locked up tight no matter what Pixar does. And yes, the thought of Disney bastardizing the awesome Pixar stories and characters with the inevitable sequels makes me gag. I can see it now: "Toy Story VII: Woody gets kidnapped by a tree-burning, eagle-killing, meat-eating, church-going, capitalist toy collector, and it's up to Buzz and the others to save Woody, Mother Nature, and the entire world's ecosystem from . . ." Pardon me. I have to go throw up.
Geez, I hate Disney. I wonder how Eisner hides his horns.
Unfortunately, the five-picture contract (signed after Toy Story I) does not include sequels (like Toy Story II). That's why Disney gets a total of seven Pixar flicks for their own sequel-spewing animation mill.
So Disney has The Incredibles and Cars locked up tight no matter what Pixar does. And yes, the thought of Disney bastardizing the awesome Pixar stories and characters with the inevitable sequels makes me gag. I can see it now: "Toy Story VII: Woody gets kidnapped by a tree-burning, eagle-killing, meat-eating, church-going, capitalist toy collector, and it's up to Buzz and the others to save Woody, Mother Nature, and the entire world's ecosystem from . . ." Pardon me. I have to go throw up.
Geez, I hate Disney. I wonder how Eisner hides his horns.
Sir_Giggles
macrumors 6502a
Hallelulah! Thank God.
Finally I won't have to put up with all the advertising crap that Disney puts in at the start of their DVDs. I hope the next distributor Pixar chooses makes their DVDs no nonsense, like WB or NL.
Finally I won't have to put up with all the advertising crap that Disney puts in at the start of their DVDs. I hope the next distributor Pixar chooses makes their DVDs no nonsense, like WB or NL.
Sabenth
macrumors 6502a
diseny puts ads on dvds since when ive never seen a disney dvd with adverts
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I didnt like disney world it had Ms World when i was there in 97
i dont like disney they got my daughter hooked on really weird films...
and i think pixar can go a long long way and better with there moives...
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I didnt like disney world it had Ms World when i was there in 97
i dont like disney they got my daughter hooked on really weird films...
and i think pixar can go a long long way and better with there moives...
I wonder if this may also have a relationship to Apple's own potential desire for creating an iTunes Store version of a movie distribution download model, tied to the eventual release of an a/v ipod device.
The iPod was released kind of late in the game for an MP3 player. It could be that Apple is again going to wait for players like Archos to establish the market and then best competitors with a great product.
Disney spends so much time protecting its historic collection, controlling distribution and re-release to home video and dvd. Disney would probably continue to hold back Pixar's attempts to take advantage of the future of downloadable movie channels.
Now, if Pixar could be a pioneer and feed this future market as well as show up on future Apple products, then there'd finally be a great synergy payoff relative to Jobs' presence within both companies. As it is now, these two brands don't mingle as much as they probably could (and should) and that's likely due to Disney's strict control over Pixar.
The iPod was released kind of late in the game for an MP3 player. It could be that Apple is again going to wait for players like Archos to establish the market and then best competitors with a great product.
Disney spends so much time protecting its historic collection, controlling distribution and re-release to home video and dvd. Disney would probably continue to hold back Pixar's attempts to take advantage of the future of downloadable movie channels.
Now, if Pixar could be a pioneer and feed this future market as well as show up on future Apple products, then there'd finally be a great synergy payoff relative to Jobs' presence within both companies. As it is now, these two brands don't mingle as much as they probably could (and should) and that's likely due to Disney's strict control over Pixar.
johnnyjibbs
macrumors 68030
Yes, but I also remember when new DV iMacs used to ship with a Bug's Life DVD. I don't beleive Nemo is shipping with new iMacs now - and why shouldn't it?
I'd be willing to speculate that it's because Disney want's that extra $$$ from the small percentage of new Mac owners...
PC's leverage software bundling to drive sales, if Apple could compensate for it's lack of shipping with MS Office with more entertainment, perhaps that would help???
johnnyjibbs
macrumors 68030
That would be a good idea.
Regarding MS Office bundles, most UK places at least offer huge discounts on Office when bought at the same time as a Mac, and Macs also come with far more software anyway. My parents' new Dell came with MS Works, some rubbish Dell picture viewing software and Windows XP. That was about it.
Regarding MS Office bundles, most UK places at least offer huge discounts on Office when bought at the same time as a Mac, and Macs also come with far more software anyway. My parents' new Dell came with MS Works, some rubbish Dell picture viewing software and Windows XP. That was about it.
Yes, but I'd assert that this doesn't have the same user-experience impact that DELL has when you can simply select to have vital software added/upgraded/installed with your BTO machine. If it doesn't come as the base bundle, or show up in a drop down menu in the online Apple store product 'configurator' (like Apple is wisely starting to do w. its own products like FCE), then you can't fairly compare.
Apple.com bought Macs are supposed to show up in a box, and work as soon as you take them out & plug them in. Rebates, discounts, confusing additional software offers, etc disrupt this essential Apple experience - they're, how you say, so... PC.
I'm a Disney fan, big one. The thing is this, EISNER SUCKS. BIG TIME. He needs to go. He's the person you hate, not Disney itself.
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Re: Re: YES!!!!
Sorry to double post but...
Did you read the safety records? Did you see them? No? Yeah, that's what I thought. Just because they had a few high profile saftey problems dosn't make them horrible. Trust me, there is worse out there, a lot that dosn't get reported.
Sorry to double post but...
Did you read the safety records? Did you see them? No? Yeah, that's what I thought. Just because they had a few high profile saftey problems dosn't make them horrible. Trust me, there is worse out there, a lot that dosn't get reported.
3rdpath
macrumors 68000
the more i digest this situation i believe jobs is making a move to help oust eisner. the timing is perfect and it substantiates many of roy disney's claims.
...then jobs will renegotiate with the new ceo(annointed by roy?) who will be brought back in and be the "hero".
this is high-stakes chess...and eisner has few pieces left.
and as far as disney's ethics, peggy lee is just one of many people screwed by disney. there's kid radio/disney radio, the milne( winnie the pooh) family's suit where the disney team has gone so far as to destroy records and get sanctions, the screwing of the writer of " who framed roger rabbit?", me..., the list goes on and on.
if there was a 3 strikes law for companies, disney would be gone gone gone....
...then jobs will renegotiate with the new ceo(annointed by roy?) who will be brought back in and be the "hero".
this is high-stakes chess...and eisner has few pieces left.
and as far as disney's ethics, peggy lee is just one of many people screwed by disney. there's kid radio/disney radio, the milne( winnie the pooh) family's suit where the disney team has gone so far as to destroy records and get sanctions, the screwing of the writer of " who framed roger rabbit?", me..., the list goes on and on.
if there was a 3 strikes law for companies, disney would be gone gone gone....
It was 3d and computer animation that saved Disney in the first place. Going back to the days before tron, look at the crap that the studio was putting out.Bad live action movies and rehased animation.I wish success to both but Disney really needs to get over the mentality that nothing will work with out them.