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SAukland said:
Except for that little detail that it was a financial results conference call... where they report earnings. So... translated for you... they made revenue from selling shorts in the iTunes store. And they reported it. Even if Motorola was selling phones in the store, or Lugz was selling boots, they would report it as a portion of their revenue.

Numbers please investors. Then they can follow trends and predict the behavior of a stock. Its essential to know what portion of the million movies sold were from Pixar, as it could affect future earnings if it rises.

Right. If Pixar said 'hey, right after the end of our quarter we sold 125K shorts through a new delivery system by company x, we think it's going to be a good deal to stay in,' everyone would be like, wow, cool. Instead, it's omg Steve Jobs is advertising in the Pixar conference call to make Apple look good! And he's been using us as bait to Disney! This sux0rs!

Earnings calls often have information about new directions a company is going in, or anything else of substance that might affect future earnings, for the analysts to be better informed.
 
What's happened to Cars?

Anyone notice that the release date for cars has been pushed back from November 05 to June 06? If you look at the teaser trailer at pixar.com, it ends with the text "coming november 05", but their site now slates it for release in June 06.

I wonder what caused the delay? Maybe pixar was expected 3GHz powermacs by now in order to render the thing. Obviously the 2.5s take an extra 6 months to do the job
 
J-Squire said:
Anyone notice that the release date for cars has been pushed back from November 05 to June 06? If you look at the teaser trailer at pixar.com, it ends with the text "coming november 05", but their site now slates it for release in June 06.

I wonder what caused the delay? Maybe pixar was expected 3GHz powermacs by now in order to render the thing. Obviously the 2.5s take an extra 6 months to do the job

Pixar/Disney think that summer releases are more profitable because you have the Holiday Season to sell DVDs.
 
125,000 isn't a huge number, but I still consider it good for being Pixar Shorts. Personally I wouldn't spend $1.99 on a Pixar Short, nor would I for a music video. TV shows, however, I would. At least the shorts are selling, though. Now I really want a comparison of TV show sales versus music video sales. And which of each category come out on top. I'm hoping for Lost. :)
 
At first I thought the Pixar Shorts sounded dumb, but soon realized how I would use them (if I had a Video iPod). The Pixar shorts are perfect for showing off your iPod to your friends :) They only last a few minutes, and they are tons of fun to watch.

But anyway, I'm glad to see the Videos are selling well.
 
PlaceofDis said:
this is great for Pixar, especially since they released no movie this quarter, and to see their profits so high is well indeed since it is all coming from DVD sales in particular
Probably the re-release of Toy Story sold very well. But I just don't understand why they re-release TS2 after Christmas... :confused:
 
Why are people so shirty about Pixar news? There's always been a good connection between Apple and Pixar..don't forget, if Steve didn't run Pixar you wouldn't be watching LOST on your iPod right now..

125k video sales through a delivery medium that didn't exist a month ago is great. It's just like clicking your fingers and adding another revenue stream (albeit a small one) - investors love that kinda thing.
 
I liked this news post and I come here for Mac'Rumors' and 'news'. I couldn't care less what the site is called, it's the biggest and best Mac community on the net and brings through all the relevent information that mac enthusiasts might be interested in rather than bookmarking 10 different odd sites.
 
SAukland said:
Except for that little detail that it was a financial results conference call... where they report earnings. So... translated for you... they made revenue from selling shorts in the iTunes store. And they reported it. Even if Motorola was selling phones in the store, or Lugz was selling boots, they would report it as a portion of their revenue.

Numbers please investors. Then they can follow trends and predict the behavior of a stock. Its essential to know what portion of the million movies sold were from Pixar, as it could affect future earnings if it rises.
Ummm, I was joking. I was making fun of the first guy who was annoyed by this news item. Sorry, I should have made it more clear. I found the article interesting, I fully understand why it was posted, and I'm happy it was posted. Thanks for the translation though :)
 
This is interesting. I find this confusing - Steve Jobs is CEO of both companies and yet with the iTunes movie deal he is making a profit for both Apple and Pixar.

i.e. Apple buys movies from Pixar at $1 each, and sells them for $2 (or whatever the price is). I wonder who is making the bigger profit due to this - Pixar or Apple?


I find this hard to get my head around. Say you owned 2 companies, one which assembled cars, and another which produced car parts. How do you work it out so the assembly company buys the car parts for the right price etc etc?

I don't think I'm making much sense. But whatever Steve Jobs is doing he's making dual profits for the one product lol.

Wouldn't it be nice for Apple nad Pixar to merge?
 
FearFactor47 said:
This is interesting. I find this confusing - Steve Jobs is CEO of both companies and yet with the iTunes movie deal he is making a profit for both Apple and Pixar.

i.e. Apple buys movies from Pixar at $1 each, and sells them for $2 (or whatever the price is). I wonder who is making the bigger profit due to this - Pixar or Apple?
It's kind of like in Catch-22, where the genius Milo buys eggs in Sicily for 1 cent apiece, sells them to himself in Malta for 4.5 cents apiece, and then sells them to his own mess halls for 5 cents apiece (a 2 cent discount from his 7 cent eggs). Great book by the way, I'm reading it for the first time right now. And as a ruse to make my post seem slightly less off-topic, I'll randomly ask if Catch-22 is available as an audio book in iTunes, and if there are any quarterly reports available that tell how many times it's been downloaded?
 
apple pixar 3d

dear steve:

i want quadros in the future powerbooks !

so do all your animators at pixar (i guess)

just to let you know
 
J-Squire said:
"coming november 05", but their site now slates it for release in June 06.
They (Pixar & Disney) supposedly ageed to push back the release date because the move "felt" more like a summer release. They also probably didn't want to compete directly with this. The added downside is that unless Disney and Pixar kiss and make up, we also will not be seeing Ratatouille until summer 2007.

B
 
tveric said:
The "unique connection" is, in total, that Steve Jobs is the CEO of both companies. Your statement is like saying that if you're a Chicago Bulls fan, you also must be interested in the doings of the Birmingham Barons, because Michael Jordan played there for a while.

Poor logic. The story is not so much relevant because of Steve Jobs' involvement in both companies as the direct link between the companies because of the iTunes video downloads. Any news that things are going well is a hint that more may be on the way.

It's not like the story was about a company that Jobs formerly headed and that has no relationship to Apple.
 
iTunes video sales are highly relevant to the Mac, both on a hardware and software level, especially since the new iMac G5 with Front Row was announced. It's both news in as much as it shows how well the concept is doing so far and rumor in as much as it provides evidence toward the direction the iPod and Mac might take in the future.

Personally I'm glad the videos are selling well, but I still think it's a business in its infancy and that it'll end up somewhat different to the current iTunes model.
 
Nice

rikers_mailbox said:
Actually, no earnings were reported by Pixar for sales through iTunes. Pixar Q3 results are though Oct 1. iTunes 6.0 (with online video sales) was introduced Oct. 12.

Steve said in Pixar's earnings conference call that 125,000 videos were sold to date, as of Nov 8. It was just a bit of hype from Steve for his other, also ridiculously successful company. :)

(and, FWIW, the 1,000,000 videos sold annoucement was Oct 31.)

Very keen and observant response.
 
I don't think we'll hear a complete breakdown of video sales until the numbers are higher. The top 10 or 100 should give us an idea of what's selling (although I wonder sometimes if the charts are really based on sales or on new launches which Apple has a preference of promoting).
 
balamw said:
They (Pixar & Disney) supposedly ageed to push back the release date because the move "felt" more like a summer release. They also probably didn't want to compete directly with this. The added downside is that unless Disney and Pixar kiss and make up, we also will not be seeing Ratatouille until summer 2007.

B

Yep, that's exactly why. Honestly though, I think they say that it "feels" like a summer release just for PR, what they really want to do is make Disney realize that non-Pixar CG movies won't do well. Can't wait for summer though.
 
I thought The Incredibles Jack-Jack Attack was the funniest Pixar short ever created. I must've seen that short 2 dozen times now. Those Pixar animators are geniuses.
 
Not so confusing

FearFactor47 said:
I find this hard to get my head around. Say you owned 2 companies, one which assembled cars, and another which produced car parts. How do you work it out so the assembly company buys the car parts for the right price etc etc?

I don't think I'm making much sense. But whatever Steve Jobs is doing he's making dual profits for the one product lol.

The main thing to remember is that Steve doesn't actually own Pixar and Apple, he is just CEO of both companies. The owners of each company are the shareholders, which most likely consist of many different people, so they are very separate companies.

I am actually suprised the amount of connection that Apple and Pixar are allowed to have, considering they are run by the same person. Steve owes duties to each company, and has to act in the best interests of both companies, which often makes it hard for two companies to deal with each other, because on one side he wants to get the highest price possible, and on the other side he wants to get the lowest price possible.

Yeah, I agree that it would be great if they just merged
 
J-Squire said:
I am actually suprised the amount of connection that Apple and Pixar are allowed to have, considering they are run by the same person. Steve owes duties to each company, and has to act in the best interests of both companies

You may recall that this is the reason he was "interim" CEO of Apple for so long -- when he dropped the interim title (in 2000), he referenced the fact that both Apple and Pixar were happy with his performance as dual CEO, which he'd been doing since 1997.
 
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