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Planning Board Rendering Unveils New Glass-Enclosed Apple Store for Stanford
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I doubt that. There's building code they need to follow.
For certain, some construction techniques have been banned in California due to earthquake hazards, but they are for things like brick masonry. Much of these regulations came about after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake which destroyed many of the older brick structures in Santa Cruz, particularly in retail stores.
Getting showered by safety glass is better than having a brick wall bury you.
Note that the most earthquake-prone country in the world -- Japan -- has not banned the use of glass.
The biggest hazard in earthquakes is fire, followed by tsunami (not applicable for Stanford/Palo Alto). Fire is what destroyed San Francisco in 1906.
Glass and metal doesn't burn. Wood framing and plywood? You bet. The use of wood shakes as roofing material has also been deprecated in this state.
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Not to mention, this stores highly perilous proximity to the San Andreas Fault.
One of the highlights of this store, is what you won't see. The new designs created to meet or exceed the building code, as it relates to potential seismic activity, assures this will be one of Apples most expensive stores to build.
Well overdue for the "big one" it's Apples opportunity to obtain some free durability testing once the tremors begin.
Yeah, I've been to the Stanford Mall Apple Store. Tiny but had what I needed.
And also noted prior guessing it is partially due to the Microsoft stores that pop up near Apple stores.
Just when Micorsoft was laughing having one 2 doors down from Apple at Stanford Mall, Apple laughs back with a NEW Store.
Nice but seems wasted space up front.
And also noted prior guessing it is partially due to the Microsoft stores that pop up near Apple stores.
Just when Micorsoft was laughing having one 2 doors down from Apple at Stanford Mall, Apple laughs back with a NEW Store.
Nice but seems wasted space up front.
Relatively speaking, the Stanford Shopping Center is not that near the faultline. It's on bedrock.Not to mention, this stores highly perilous proximity to the San Andreas Fault.
One of the highlights of this store, is what you won't see. The new designs created to meet or exceed the building code, as it relates to potential seismic activity, assures this will be one of Apples most expensive stores to build.
Well overdue for the "big one" it's Apples opportunity to obtain some free durability testing once the tremors begin.
If you want to point out highly risky Apple Retail Stores, there are other more notable examples in the area. Both the Berkeley and Emeryville retail stores are closer to the nearest fault (the Hayward Fault). This is the same fault that runs directly under Memorial Stadium at UC Berkeley.
Earthquakes in CA is an urban legend. Seriously. I've lived in CA all 25 years of my life and I've never felt a real earthquake in my life. I napped through the Loma Prieta (1989). The only earthquake I've felt is at the Tech Museum.
Personally, I go into my apple store to play with some toys, and once everyone few years buy a toy...
I don't see any tempting toys... it's a huge show case with nothing in it. Or maybe I'm not seeing this rendering quite right... what's the floor map look like?
I don't see any tempting toys... it's a huge show case with nothing in it. Or maybe I'm not seeing this rendering quite right... what's the floor map look like?
Furnishings are movable. They don't need to be included in the architectural plans submitted to the city planning commission. In the same way, the planning commission doesn't need to know where your living room couch will be placed.
I'm not sure why you'd expect Apple Retail to create a store floorplan anyhow. They don't seem to offer them for their existing properties.
In any case, I'd expect them to put Macs on one side of the store and iOS devices on the other side with their cash cow -- the iPhone -- close to the front of the store.
I'm not sure why you'd expect Apple Retail to create a store floorplan anyhow. They don't seem to offer them for their existing properties.
In any case, I'd expect them to put Macs on one side of the store and iOS devices on the other side with their cash cow -- the iPhone -- close to the front of the store.
A new Store Paradigm?
I think we may be seeing the first space designed for Apple's push into the living room. One half (the most visible) dedicated to the home experience, the other to have the typical set of product display tables.
This would allow them to separate the noise of those at the product tables from interfering with the (potential) Siri-activated Apple TV. It would also give shoppers an idea of just how beautiful the new TV is in a more familiar environment, perhaps even with couches and other furniture.
Just a thought.
I think we may be seeing the first space designed for Apple's push into the living room. One half (the most visible) dedicated to the home experience, the other to have the typical set of product display tables.
This would allow them to separate the noise of those at the product tables from interfering with the (potential) Siri-activated Apple TV. It would also give shoppers an idea of just how beautiful the new TV is in a more familiar environment, perhaps even with couches and other furniture.
Just a thought.
Whether or not the Domain is a mall, the apple store is a mall store. I thought they were doing some rennovations when it closed to two weeks after the opening of the Microsoft Store, but they didn't really do anything.
Wow apple are,making a glass store? Who d have thunk it...
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Where exactly is the innovative disruption? I keep seeing pretty much the same store repeated to boredom.
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Where exactly is the innovative disruption? I keep seeing pretty much the same store repeated to boredom.
Was think of that crazy old women as I read. She did not only almost take out the glass wall, but she also took down the display it was so funny to watch.
And a good though at that.
In fact, that thought was so well thought out, I think MR can do a cover story on it.
MacRumors said:MR Forum User Speculates that Apple's New Store Design Concept for Selling Siri Based TVs
Today, forum user scottdan1200 on MacRumors had a brilliant insight.
While sounding like he really knew something, he shrugged it off at the end with:
Many people have discussed the possibility of Apple releasing an "iTV" in time for the holidays this year.
Article Link: MR Forum user scottdan Speculates that Apple's New Store Design Concept for Selling Siri Based TVs
I should totally get hired to start writing for MacRumors.
Yes, but the AC bill might go way up due to the greenhouse effect of all that glass.
You are right about trying to make a distinction is misguided. However, technically I think are separated somewhat.
Stanford University owns the land the Mall/Shopping Center is on. I'm pretty sure there is a long term lease the Mall building owners have to pay. Stanford doesn't own the Mall though. If the owners wanted to pick it up and put it on rollers and roll it away, they could. Not likely, but goes to why the "campus" and "mall" are different. There is several tracts of large acres of land with industry/retail stuff on it that technically belongs to Stanford, but isn't really the campus. That's said you can spit from the Mall's parking lot and hit "campus"; so making a big deal out of the subtle difference is ridiculous.
The campus tends to fall under the "Stanford, CA" umbrella as opposed to the "Palo Alto, CA". So the Mall is one way for Stanford to kick back tax revenues to Palo Alto and so they'll leave Stanford alone about much of the other 100's of acres it is sitting on.
All that aside..... this does make much more sense than the rumor several months (or over a year?) back about Apple building a new large, glass mega store in Palo Alto. Back then it sounded like the original Palo Alto store was moving to somewhere else downtown P.A. in a bigger building. This makes more sense. Replace the micro-mini mall store with a large store. On most days, there will be much easier parking here than in trying to draw hordes more cars into downtown P.A.
The downtown P.A. (old music shop ) store can now be the "mini store" for that area.
This is like a smack in the face to that poor old lady that ran into the apple store glass door a few weeks back!
I feel for any elderly person who gets hurt like that, but then she went and sued Apple (who had already put white square decals on the windows). Then all sympathy was extinguished.
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Looks beautiful. But I wonder what the deal is with the wall. Maybe the Apple TV necessitates some more open space unencumbered by wooden tables? I could see that. Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads all look great on a desk/table surface. But TVs or other large panels might be better displayed mounted on a wall...perhaps a stone wall...
Errrr, you do realize that the Great San Francisco 1906 Earthquake pretty much destroyed the campus?
Large plate glass windows cracked at the Student Center during the '89 Loma Prieta quake. (some other damage http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.156159103417.112329.6192688417&type=3 )
For a 6.0 or higher quake, Stanford is well within the high damage zone if the San Adreas fault on the peninsula lets go locally.
The Hayward fault is at high risk of going soon. But the Memorial Stadium issue is quite different. Different parts of the stadium were moving at different rates each year. It actually straddles the fault where the ground underneath moves at different rates whether there are substantive quakes or not.
Most likely, most of that glass is not load bearing and loosely bound at the edges. The roof is probably largely supported but what is not in the picture. It probably won't be the safest building in the Mall if the "big one" lets go locally but it probably won't fail badly for most minor to mid-range events.
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The use of the word totally was meant to make the statement sound sarcastic. Which it mostly was. Although if Arn offered me a paid position, I'd accept.
Yes, I'm aware of the history. The 1906 temblor wrecked parts of the Main Quad, but the school itself was much smaller at the time, having only been in operation for fifteen years. Interestingly, Stanford Memorial Church survived both earthquakes and the university found it worth renovating each time.
The broken plate glass windows from 1989 were relatively minor in comparison to other damage in other parts of the state, some located much farther from the epicenter in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
In any case, the point is that Apple isn't really being particularly irresponsible by building a store at Stanford Shopping Center. They have two other stores within a mile anyhow.
It's not like they are locating the new store significantly closer to the faultline (which is west of I-280).
Yup, there's always some slippage between the plates on a faultline, regardless of any quakes. At some point, there would be major structural damage to the stadium regardless of whether or not the "big one" hits the Hayward fault.
The glass wouldn't be load-bearing; the metal frame of the building would go up first. The glass would probably add to the rigidity of the overall design.
