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macmania82

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Hi friends,

I'm so close to make my dreams true... as close as days... hopefully finally this weekend I'm going to buy :apple: Macbook Pro 17'' (previous generation) :D

I'm extremely excited of that!!!! but I also worry if I buy sth wrong. I've been saving money years and years for that, and I cant upgrade my laptop in next 4-5 years (money matter).

What do you think for the spec below? Please tell me your ideas,, each messages here are like gold for me! thanks a lot, I appreciate you guys!!!

ps, does it support 1920px res?


== 2600 Dollar ==

MacBook Pro 17 "2.5GHz/4GB/320GB/SD/AP/BT/GF8600MGT


- Processor 2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
- 17 "Widescreen liquid crystal display LED-backlit Glossy
- 4 GB of DDR2 memory (2x1GB SO-DIMM) 667MHz
- Hard-drive 320 GB Serial ATA
- optical-drive 8x SuperDrive (DVD + R DL / DVDRW / CD-RW)
- graphics processor NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512 MB GDDR3 memory
- one FireWire 400 and one FireWire 800 port
- three USB 2.0 ports
- ExpressCard/34 slot
- module-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking (802.11n)
- Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
- In 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet
- built-in iSight
- built-in stereo speakers
- optical digital input / audio line input
- optical digital output / output line out
- a built-in microphone
- 2.59 cm/39-dimensions, 2 cm / 6.5 cm Weight: 3.08 kg
- Software: Mac OS X Leopard, iLife'08
 
Nice

First off congrats. Also yes it does have a 19x12 res and i think its a nice computer. I wish i could afford any 17 inch......

Also, where are you buying it from. If it is not from an apple authorized retailer be careful because the 8600s have had some issues
 
hey thanks for comment! I cant stay in one place, so excited :D :D :D :D

I'm going to buy it from an Apple Premium Reseller in Poland.

hmm you say people has some problems with 8600s! Maybe better I research more about such problem for this card.


ps I cross my finger for you, I hope you can have 17'' soon too :)

First off congrats. Also yes it does have a 19x12 res and i think its a nice computer. I wish i could afford any 17 inch......

Also, where are you buying it from. If it is not from an apple authorized retailer be careful because the 8600s have had some issues
 
Not sure if you have been paying attention, but there is an event coming up within 2 weeks.

You might also want to check out the buyer's guide.
 
thanks, i hope i one day get one too, here is a link to an article about the 8600s i dont mean to be a downer but it seems that most if not all these cards are defective https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/515067/

ooo thanks for the link! I will read all :confused:

Not sure if you have been paying attention, but there is an event coming up within 2 weeks.

You might also want to check out the buyer's guide.


Hi Consultant, sorry for my silly comment but what do you mean exactly with "event"? should I wait for that? or .. ...

ps, I', just checking Buyer's guide : ) thanks for advise
 
its WWDC (World Wide Developer Conference) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Developers_Conference

Apple has been known to release new hardware and software during these dates. It's highly expected for Apple to preview Snow Leopard (next operating system), and maybe even release it, but probably not. (should be released by or before August). If they do release it soon you could work out a deal with the reseller you're buying it from. Since the graphics card has been known to be defective (accordingly from other members), you might be able to talk the reseller into providing a copy of Snow Leopard along with the MacBook Pro. Thats if you and the inventory could wait until its released.

Oh, and what exactly would you be using the MacBook Pro for?

cheers
 
its WWDC (World Wide Developer Conference) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Developers_Conference

Apple has been known to release new hardware and software during these dates. It's highly expected for Apple to preview Snow Leopard (next operating system), and maybe even release it, but probably not. (should be released by or before August). If they do release it soon you could work out a deal with the reseller you're buying it from. Since the graphics card has been known to be defective (accordingly from other members), you might be able to talk the reseller into providing a copy of Snow Leopard along with the MacBook Pro. Thats if you and the inventory could wait until its released.

Oh, and what exactly would you be using the MacBook Pro for?

cheers


Aha very good detail actually!! thanks for mentioning! (about WWDC)

About graphic card issue, I'm just reading forums and blogs, it looks really problematic : ( I'm so disappointed! maybe I'm jsut too fraggle, but this is very important for me and dont want to have any trouble just after I pay such big money with my not so good financial situations. even if I ask to reseller about this graphc card issue, I dont think they would say bad about that. they need to sell it somehow!

I'll use macbook pro for Web Development and Graphic Design (print)... So I actually a kind of forcing system...
 
im doing some research for you, and not all of the mbp 17inchers with the graphics card are defective, but nvidia even claimed that there's a "signficant amount".

I wouldnt take the risk. :(
and if you do id really recommend buying the extended apple care (3 years).

is a 15 inch out of the option?
 
im doing some research for you, and not all of the mbp 17inchers with the graphics card are defective, but nvidia even claimed that there's a "signficant amount".

I wouldnt take the risk. :(
and if you do id really recommend buying the extended apple care (3 years).

is a 15 inch out of the option?



If this graphic card will make problem and problem , and if it will make me to go apple for repair again and again. I dont want such machine of course. Probably I will be extremely angry if my laptop'd make up problems again and again :mad: :mad: :mad: a laptop which asks for 2600$ should not be so problematic!!!

all my nice excited has been ruined now!! :( I was dreaming about it for loooong time.

maybe better to think about new generation macbook pro 17''? actually I cant afford that now! need to save money for another months and months! :mad:

15'' is not an option for me NXTMIKE :(
 
ps, does it support 1920px res?

Also yes it does have a 19x12 res and i think its a nice computer.
If it is not from an apple authorized retailer be careful because the 8600s have had some issues

Where in the world does this say ANYTHING about 1920x1200?

There^

Also, if I'm not wrong, Apple may service the computers with faulty graphics cards even when they're outside of their warranties. Can someone else verify this?
 
hey thanks for comment! I cant stay in one place, so excited :D :D :D :D

I'm going to buy it from an Apple Premium Reseller in Poland.

hmm you say people has some problems with 8600s! Maybe better I research more about such problem for this card.


ps I cross my finger for you, I hope you can have 17'' soon too :)

for an extra 200$ you can get a newer unibody machine w/o a defective grapics card. and i screen with 60% more pixels.
 
The 8600 has kept me from some really good 15" deals. It seems too risky because your only option in a failure is a pricey repair. It also seems people are selling them right after owning them for a year because they are just out of warranty if they didn't buy applecare.
I would really consider a 15" unibody and get a decent external monitor when you need a large screen. I don't know how much you will be carrying it around but it makes a difference if you do carry it around a lot between a 17" and 15". 17" is real nice but 15" is pretty decent and current model.
 
Don't buy it, even less if you don't deal with apple directly in your country. My MBP NVidia 8600 GT died and it took the Apple reseller in Argentina 1 month to do the repair.
 
for an extra 200$ you can get a newer unibody machine w/o a defective grapics card. and i screen with 60% more pixels.


200$ difference? no way my friend, there is almost 800$ difference which is big money for me :(

Here is the link for macs I can buy;
https://sklep.ispot.com.pl/cgi-bin/.../wo/vwdJtkxyMABXzi1p226JLM/0.0.27.7.1.6.5.1.1

I wanted to go for 3th one (with fu... graphic card) :(

Don't buy it, even less if you don't deal with apple directly in your country. My MBP NVidia 8600 GT died and it took the Apple reseller in Argentina 1 month to do the repair.

I feel so sorry for your mac my friend. I dont know what I would do if I were you. I'm extremely nervous person about such thing. especially for such a case that your dream laptop is broken, and making problem and problem.


Ps, thanks for sharing your experience. how is it now? working well?

what about the graphic card problem after mac repair that? do they replace that bad card with some other models which has no production fault?

There^

Also, if I'm not wrong, Apple may service the computers with faulty graphics cards even when they're outside of their warranties. Can someone else verify this?


I read about this yesterday at a trustable blog. As I read, apple repair card problem in 2 years from MBP's production year.even if you dont have warranty. or if you already paid for such service, apple refund your money.

But this previous generation MBPs will be out of 2 years by the end of this year... so it is nonsense :(
 
is there any similar problem with Unibody Macbook Pro? like graphic card or somthing like that?
 

That's no evidence of anything.:confused: People said something. That isn't evidence.

i read it on mactracker, a very useful application with info about every mac ever made, i highly recommend it

I have it, and would have used it, except he didn't put the model number up with the specs and seems to have both GPUs in his list of specs.
 
I feel so sorry for your mac my friend. I dont know what I would do if I were you. I'm extremely nervous person about such thing. especially for such a case that your dream laptop is broken, and making problem and problem.

Ps, thanks for sharing your experience. how is it now? working well?

It's working fine now. One thing to note is that the MBP was out warranty and Apple fixed it for free. Computers having the 8600GT have, so far, a 2 years extended warranty (from the date of purchase)

What about the graphic card problem after mac repair that? do they replace that bad card with some other models which has no production fault?

They replace the whole logic board. There's no way to know if the replacement board is not defective. The damn thing usually lasts 1.5 years before breaking. I would be happy if this thing lasts 2 more years (I bought the MBP on Nov-2007)
 
2 days ago I was so excited about this weekend, I would go to buy my dream macbook pro 17'', but yesterday sb here warned me for graphic card. and I started researching about the problem. I found soooooo many unhappy, angry MBP user... and I found out soooooo many other MBP problems at video portal, forums, etc...

Now I'm totally disappointed :( I kept money for this more than a year.

Do you guys think if I exaggerate this disappointing? there are also many people who doesn't have problem, and easy use MBP years and years...

if you compare problematic MBP with no-problematics at all, what would you say? Problematic MBP are really less when comparing good ones, or not?
 
That's no evidence of anything.:confused: People said something. That isn't evidence.



I have it, and would have used it, except he didn't put the model number up with the specs and seems to have both GPUs in his list of specs.

He also mentioned a "17 "Widescreen liquid crystal display LED-backlit Glossy".

If I remember correctly, Penryn 17" MBPs with the LED display are automatically the high-res version with 19x12 and not 16x10 right?
 
2 days ago I was so excited about this weekend, I would go to buy my dream macbook pro 17'', but yesterday sb here warned me for graphic card. and I started researching about the problem. I found soooooo many unhappy, angry MBP user... and I found out soooooo many other MBP problems at video portal, forums, etc...

Now I'm totally disappointed :( I kept money for this more than a year.

Do you guys think if I exaggerate this disappointing? there are also many people who doesn't have problem, and easy use MBP years and years...

if you compare problematic MBP with no-problematics at all, what would you say? Problematic MBP are really less when comparing good ones, or not?

I would buy the lower end UMBP with 4GB of RAM, and upgrade the hard drive to a SSD in a couple of years (it's really easy to do so with the UMBP), if I were you.
 
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