Please help me choose a 256GB SSD for MBP Unibody 08

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  1. RealEvil macrumors 6502

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    Hi,

    I have a MBP 15" Unibody with a 320GB HD now. Id like to upgrade to a SSD as I have a bit of cash spare at the moment.

    I have read as much info as I can and have settled on 3 options (all of which I want to buy through Novatech a UK company who are just up the road from me):

    GSKill Titan: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?GSK-SSD256
    OCZ Vertex: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?OCZ-VSSD25
    Corsair P256/Samsung P256: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAM-SSD256 / http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?CSR-P256

    There is quite a variance on price, ranging from £480 up to £570. I think the Samsung/Corsair probably offer the best performance but I cam concerned they dont offer Firmware upgrades and my favorite review site PCPer has not tested it over time yet to know how it degrades (and I dont know about TRIM commands for it etc yet).

    Any advice? I am not totally clueless but I only started researching this a few days ago and I dont know a lot about which is best. The Intel 160GB is not an option - I need the extra 100GB these drives offer.

    Thanks
     
  2. CarcinogenX macrumors member

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    Seriously, hold out for better technology.

    SSD's have been out for some time, but most of them have serious deficiencies. As of this writing, a 5400rpm drive is the best fit for a laptop.

    I have two top-of-the-line SATA II drives in RAID0 on my desktop computer and love it, but I understand that it is not feasible to have that on my laptop for a lot of reasons.

    Every day SSD technology gets better and soon there will be an affordable alternative to "spinning" drives, but as for now, a good 5400rpm drive is the best for performance/battery life.
     
  3. harshw macrumors member

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    May I ask what 'serious deficiencies' the new gen SSDs have ? :) The only deficiency in an SSD is the price/gb ratio.

    Once you install an SSD into a laptop, you'll never want to use a 5400 rpm or 7200 rpm HDD. Ever.

    RAID0 ? Hah, no way man, you use a single SSD and it will beat the 2x RAID0 array in terms of read/write performance, especially random performance. Hands down :D

    To the OP: I'd say it comes down to what you want: cheap price or support or speed. OCZ have firmware upgrades galore for the Vertex but I believe they also sell the Summit - which is the same as the Corsair

    Here's my post with the Vertex on the 2008 MB http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=664252
     
  4. aleni macrumors 68020

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    I got the corsair and I have been extra pleased with that. No problems at all till today.

    Ssd might be expensive for this time being, but surely it's totally worth it. The best upgrade I've ever done.
     
  5. emt1 macrumors 65816

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    If waiting isn't an option, I'd go for the Vertex
     
  6. RealEvil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for the input.

    For the Samsung/Corsair I am worried that the lack of firmware updates means that they may not be many 'fixes' for long term slowdown that seems almost inevitable on a laptop SSD. Any thoughts?

    I am reading about the Vertex now - thanks!
     
  7. harshw macrumors member

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    The Summit from OCZ is a Samsung based SSD and has a fix for the long term slowdown.

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=397402&postcount=28

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=397584&postcount=31

    The Vertex has TRIM - this will work in OSX once 10.6 is out but till then, if the TRIM spec gets finalised, it would be easy to boot Linux and do a 'wiper' from there since Linux has HFS+ drivers
     
  8. RealEvil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Wow - is it the Samsung controller that does this 'auto management'? If so, the Corsair P256 is about £50 cheaper than the OCZ Summit.

    Also, I have seen there is a Vertex for Mac. Whats the difference?
     
  9. harshw macrumors member

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    There is zero difference between Vertex/Mac and Vertex/PC. Just marketing. And it's the OCZ specific firmware on the Summit that does the auto management. Samsung makes a lot of drives for a lot of people - unlike Indilinx, the Samsung drives really are ODM and hence have differences - I have not seen the auto mgmt function referred to by any other manufacturer (eg: Corsair) with a Samsung drive.

    Actually the Summit is going to be my next SSD for the MB ...
     
  10. MacModMachine macrumors 68020

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    agreed...the summit i have done some benching on...and wow...

    next week i will have benchmarks up for x25m raid 0 , raid 1 and the summit single drive and summit raid 0 , raid 1 in my mbp the following week...i cant wait.

    i have been benching these drives in real scenarios with my iphone stopwatch...i have some great data!
     
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    Thanks for showing that you know what you're talking about. Which 256GB Intel SSD do you recommend?
     
  13. antskip macrumors regular

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    OCZ Summit.
     
  14. Thiol macrumors 6502a

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  15. MikhailT macrumors 601

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    What you do, don't get the Titans. Those are the RAID0 JMicron, first gen SSDs that are total crap.

    Vertex is excellent and with each firmware update, it is getting better. But it still have some issues such as bootcamp incompatibilities with older macs and some people experienced sleep/hang issues which have been fixed by 10.5.7 for most people but some still experience it with unibody macs.

    Summit's only known issue is some random slow performance issues in some macs but not all.

    Intel are the best compatible SSDs with Macs and they do have 320GB planned to come out by Q3/Q4 of this year.

    If you don't need it right now, I strongly suggest waiting for the third generation of SSDs which will be much faster, cheaper and better overall.
     
  16. Thiol macrumors 6502a

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    Oh oh. If you don't need your Superdrive... Have you thought about using two 160 GB Intel X25-Ms in Raid 0?
     
  18. MikhailT macrumors 601

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  19. tdream macrumors 65816

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    What was difference in your experience? In particular applications, boot times etc. Time from hibernation, etc.
     
  20. almostinsane macrumors regular

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    There's Intel and then there's crap. Have fun with crap.
     

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