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You can easily whip up an MP4 from a MKV using the Subler app. No reencoding necessary when the MKV is H.264 (not sure if MKV supports other codecs). It is a matter of about a few minutes for an hour long TV show on my 3-year old MBP.

Still... annoying to have to do this...

What software (for windows) can i use to do this ?

I always re-encode with handbrake and it takes AGES :(
 
What software (for windows) can i use to do this ?

I always re-encode with handbrake and it takes AGES :(

I used a prog called mkv2vob in times past, don't know what kind of state it's in these days though, I've been using Subler/mac for years now.
 
Anyone that has installed it, are you able to access the Plex Apps through the ATV?

I would love to be able to use the Daily Show app that Plex has because it's not worth paying for 10 episodes of the show when you can watch it for free on Hulu, and it is not even a 20 min show.
 
What software (for windows) can i use to do this ?

I use XMedia Recode. It looks complex but it's pretty simple, do some Googling there are a few good guides online showing how to use it to rewrap a video without transcoding, though with a lot of MKVs you'll need to transcode the audio stream but that takes only minutes.
 
You can easily whip up an MP4 from a MKV using the Subler app. No reencoding necessary when the MKV is H.264 (not sure if MKV supports other codecs). It is a matter of about a few minutes for an hour long TV show on my 3-year old MBP.

Still... annoying to have to do this...

I don't think mp4 support internal subtitles. My mum cannot understand English, so I need subtitle support.
 
Anyone that has installed it, are you able to access the Plex Apps through the ATV?

I would love to be able to use the Daily Show app that Plex has because it's not worth paying for 10 episodes of the show when you can watch it for free on Hulu, and it is not even a 20 min show.

The Apps/channels show up but I've only tested the Plex Apple Trailers channel, which worked. Word is that not all the channels work. I have the daily show installed and I can try it for you when I get home. I'm also going to update Plex Connect to the version that has the new menu system.

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What software (for windows) can i use to do this ?

I always re-encode with handbrake and it takes AGES :(

I use mp4tools for already compressed MKVs.

MKV --> mp4tools --> Subler --> Plex Media Server


For my Blu-Ray collection I use handbrake.

Blu-Ray --> MakeMKV --> Handbrake (ATV3 + RF19) --> Subler --> Plex Media Server

I ripped half of my collection using a Intel G630. That's 2 movies per day.... very slow. My new 3770K will do them in 2hrs. ;-)
 
The Apps/channels show up but I've only tested the Plex Apple Trailers channel, which worked. Word is that not all the channels work. I have the daily show installed and I can try it for you when I get home. I'm also going to update Plex Connect to the version that has the new menu system.

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I use mp4tools for already compressed MKVs.

MKV --> mp4tools --> Subler --> Plex Media Server


For my Blu-Ray collection I use handbrake.

Blu-Ray --> MakeMKV --> Handbrake (ATV3 + RF19) --> Subler --> Plex Media Server

I ripped half of my collection using a Intel G630. That's 2 movies per day.... very slow. My new 3770K will do them in 2hrs. ;-)

Thanks!

It's been a while since I used plex and couldn't remember how it works in terms of the apps/channels. Like, if both the server and client are installed on the same machine, would those apps/channels installed on the client show up elsewhere n such.
 
They could switch to using HTTPS for downloading the feed, that would be enough to kill the "exploit".

I hope they don't, though :)

True they could do this but the side effect of this might be to kill the trailers app on all the other firmware versions.
Also it would be mean spirited as trailers does not carry any sensitive information.
 
I don't think mp4 support internal subtitles. My mum cannot understand English, so I need subtitle support.

They do, I used handbrake and hard coded them on the file.

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I use XMedia Recode. It looks complex but it's pretty simple, do some Googling there are a few good guides online showing how to use it to rewrap a video without transcoding, though with a lot of MKVs you'll need to transcode the audio stream but that takes only minutes.

I will check this, thanks!
 
True they could do this but the side effect of this might be to kill the trailers app on all the other firmware versions.
Also it would be mean spirited as trailers does not carry any sensitive information.

Thanks for the hardwork.

Can you give any insight into which Apps work thru this method? ESPN3 would be my most important.
 
The Chinese Apple tv hacking community has been doing this for quite a while with a little bit different strategy, but a lot easier for beginners. They developed web-servers for the hijacked atV DNS. A bit risky, but certainly works. Here is one piece of information I found (in Chinese... :rolleyes: ).

http://bbs.weiphone.com/read-htm-tid-5145381.html
 
I have never gotten Subler to work correctly. The audio and video always get out of sync. And it doesn't work in Mountain Lion at all anyway.
Do you mean that Subler doesn't work or does the issue only happen with MKV files? With Subler, I have (almost) never had any issues with adding subtitles to a MP4 video.
 
One of my biggest wishes for WWDC is for iTunes/AppleTV to be able to play MKVs. I doubt that will happen, but I'll probably give this a try.
I hear that a lot, but is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for the format?
 
One of my biggest wishes for WWDC is for iTunes/AppleTV to be able to play MKVs. I doubt that will happen, but I'll probably give this a try.

Beamer App already plays MKV (including DTS) without hacking or jailbraking the ATV. Give it a try.

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I am a bit confused here - how is this different than applications such as Beamer, AirParrot etc.?

Thanks :)

The only difference I see is, that with both Beamer and Airparrot you start a movie from your OSX device (Beamer drag and drop interface) while with Flex you can acces your libarary and start the movie right from the ATV (you still need to have the OSX device running in the back ground).
It is a little plus over Beamer and Airparrot, but not enough to get excited about.

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You can easily whip up an MP4 from a MKV using the Subler app. No reencoding necessary when the MKV is H.264 (not sure if MKV supports other codecs). It is a matter of about a few minutes for an hour long TV show on my 3-year old MBP.

Still... annoying to have to do this...

You don't just use Beamer........

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I hear that a lot, but is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for the format?

MKV is just a container file, it is not a video format.
 
MKV is just a container file, it is not a video format.
OK, but as I said is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for this type of files?
 
Beamer App already plays MKV (including DTS) without hacking or jailbraking the ATV. Give it a try.

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The only difference I see is, that with both Beamer and Airparrot you start a movie from your OSX device (Beamer drag and drop interface) while with Flex you can acces your libarary and start the movie right from the ATV (you still need to have the OSX device running in the back ground).
It is a little plus over Beamer and Airparrot, but not enough to get excited about.


There's a lot more to Plex (not Flex) then Beamer or airparror. If you only want to stream a few movies here or there then Plex is probably not a good option. Plex is HTPC at its root. This is just one small third-party feature.

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OK, but as I said is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for this type of files?


If you're ripping your Blu-ray collection with MakeMKV and not re-encoding to mp4/m4v with handbrake. You can then keep the MKV and it would be the same exact quality as it was on the actual Blu-ray Disc (unless the Blu-ray video is vc1 then you'll want to re-encode).
 
I gave this a try last night. Hit a couple of snags; I was already running a webserver on port 80, so had to kill that, then got an error about port 53. managed to munge my DNS, but restored a file back (thanks time machine!) and got it all working.

It's not too user friendly at the moment, having to edit a pref file and then run via terminal, but I'm sure an app wrapper will appear shortly to fix that.

When you think about what is being done the question of "why didn't anyone think of that sooner?" pops up.

I purchased an ATV 3rd Gen shortly after they came out, mainly with the idea of putting XBMC on it, as I had done with my ATV 1, so I can watch / listen to the existing media I have in the format they are already in, and not have to re-encode / re-rip so that I can then add it to iTunes (if only adding the reference to the Library and not the file itself).
As we know, that isn't currently possible, nor likely to be any time soon, so I started to use Plex with my 'smart' Blu-Ray player to get similar functionality.
 
BD ISO support?

Will this or Beamer let me access a JBOD full of ISOs hooked up to my mac mini?
 
OK, but as I said is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for this type of files?

It is just a container file using less space similar as a zip file for apps.

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There's a lot more to Plex (not Flex) then Beamer or airparror. If you only want to stream a few movies here or there then Plex is probably not a good option. Plex is HTPC at its root. This is just one small third-party feature.

Right Plex..... XMBC (64bit compared to Plex 32-bit) on my Macbook but just for curiosity.....I just don't know what to think of it. What does it actually do, what Beamer (Video) and Vox (Music) cannot do beside a weather channel?

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Will this or Beamer let me access a JBOD full of ISOs hooked up to my mac mini?

No, I don't think it can play iso's.
 
Right Plex..... XMBC (64bit compared to Plex 32-bit) on my Macbook but just for curiosity.....I just don't know what to think of it. What does it actually do, what Beamer (Video) and Vox (Music) cannot do beside a weather channel?

If you're running XBMC then you wouldn't need Plex. They're both media centers. I run Plex Media Server on a headless hackintosh that serves out our family's entire Blu-ray collection. We have two teenagers who are the primary users. All in all we have the plex client on 2 MacBooks, a Windows 7 PC, an iPad, and now the Apple TV3 hack in the living room connected to the HD projector. I'd like to get the kids ATV3s for their rooms so they don't have to use their computers for Netflix, Hulu and Plex when friends are over. Seems like their bigger TVs just sit there doing nothing these days. PlexPass is also another nice feature that allows syncing for when you're on the road. Plan to use that this summer and best of all my daughter can do it herself.

It's all about simplicity. There's a lot of options out there and there's no wrong way to go about it. Before moving to Plex I used simple iTunes home sharing with the ATV3. That was before I ripped a cabinet full of movies. Whatever works for you.
 
OK, but as I said is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for this type of files?

As I remember it, the MKV container is more flexible in what it can contain than what the MP4 container is. For example, the MP4 container only supports the 3gpp (tx3g) subtitle format. This isn't convenient when the discs you rip have subtitles in vobsub or pgs format, i.e. bitmap formats – OCR is not reliable.

Also, MKV is open and free, which is nice.
 
I hear that a lot, but is there any particular reason for using MKV files outside of pirated movies and TV shows? Is there any example of legitimate use for the format?

Ripping your own Blu-Rays. I have zero illegitimate content on my Plex Server. My Blu-rays go to my closet for safe-keeping. The MKVs are huge though and add up fast so Handbrake really is needed at some point.
 
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