eh doesnt everyone already have regular power chargers and docks from ther old iPods to use. i know my original iPod photo came loaded...course for $600 it damn well should have, lol
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Pogue's iPhone Frequently Asked Questions - Part 2
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It's kind of funny, because there are plenty of phones out there that are unlike everything else. Nokia's Communicator series. The Blackberry. etc. No product on the market today can equal these, because nothing delivers that they deliver.
The question at the end of the day for most people is going to be "Here we go again. Is this particular combination of technologies something that'll suit me".
The really interesting question, for me, is how much of this will trickle down to regular phones. My Motorola and my wife's Motorola are nothing like the first phone I had, which at the time was a mainstream Motorola phone. I've had various phones since, and certain features have creeped into them, and then become a part of them. My 9290 seemed pretty radical when I got it. Flimsy piece of crap though, and curiously I'm just not that upset about the fact it doesn't work any more, because my V635 does the important things it did. But the former is a communicator, a smartphone, and the latter... well, it's just a phone.
It's a very strange market. I think at $5-600 locked and subsidized, and being larger than a full size iPod, the iPhone, quite honestly, is a dud. It'll fail miserably as a product. Anyone who believes otherwise is seriously delusional. If the iPhone itself succeeds, it'll succeed only because the price has been dropped to below $250 before the end of the year. It will not succeed at its current price point.
As a technology demo though, its utility remains to be seen, and it may well inspire some great things in the mobile phone industry. I hope it does. It might even be iPhone 2 that it inspires.
I suspect the reason why they would introduce the iPhone 6 months in advance is to get people excited about it and hold off purchasing another device in the interim. It also allows time for people to switch over to Cingular instead of renewing their contracts with their current provider. My T-Mobile account renews in March, and I will now go month-to-month instead of renewing for a full year or two.
I quite like Stylus's, works well on the DS.
As long as there's a slot to keep it there fine.
Of course there not cool, so Apple can never use one.
As long as there's a slot to keep it there fine.
Of course there not cool, so Apple can never use one.
Is this seriously a concern? I mean, come on now... it has a 30-pin ipod adaptor port just like any ipod... you'll be able to charge it anywhere you charge your ipod... I have two ipod docks at home (nano and 60gb photo) and an ipod cable at work connected to the little power adaptor (so you don't have to connect it to the computer), and an ipod adaptor in the car. You'll be able to charge it anywhere you can charge your ipod.
Common sense, people.
Um, Thread #500.
Anyone who's convinced it WILL be a dud is seriously delusional.
Whether or not it'll find a market is unclear--it's just that as marketers, most posters here make good hot air generators....
You clearly underestimate the Apple buyer market... heh. I mean, think about it. We as Apple customers buy computers at almost double PC prices because of the quality that Apple provides. Constantly, Apple provides quality hardware, software, and the integration between the two. Being that they're providing the same integration with the iPhone, Apple customers (and switchers... remember his numbers from the keynote speech?) are gladly going to pay the premium for the iPhone, because they'll be bringing to the cellphone market what they've been providing to the personal computing market for years...
Yeah, it was definitely a good marketing ploy for them, for a few reasons...
1. Introduce the product before people find out about it from the FCC
2. Lets people spread the hype through word of mouth, resulting in even more customers when the time comes
3. Gives people time to cancel their own plans and prepare to switch to Cingular
4. If they want to do more research on what their customers want, and get feedback on what they want, they can easily do so within 5 months
I, personally, am hoping to get an 8gb model the day it's released... so I'm glad they're waiting to perfect the product before it's released... and my TMobile contract is up in May, so it'll be perfect timing and I won't have to pay any cancellation fees... heh
It won't be an issue for people that have multiple computers, a wall charger or car adaptor for their iPod but it'll be a pain for those who don't
I only have one computer with only one free USB port that I have to swap out between a whole myriad of gadgets as necessary and don't know what I would do if I had to charge my cell phone via my computer as well since you'd have to do it almost everyday. Just antsy that it wasn't mentioned in the keynote when he normally does make a small note of these things
The question was what product "equaled" the iPhone...none of what you listed equaled the iPhone...
And if the "only" thing you cared about was the push from an Exchange server then that's fine..cuz that's "really" the only thing they offer that the iPhone doesn't.
Some will, of course, but who cares? This is like trying to ask, what improvements will there be for my 8-track player now that we have CD-players coming out.
Call me one of the delusional.
But the difference here is that you see this as a "phone", rightly so given its name.
However, the reality is that the power and the future of this device has very little to do with it being a "phone".
The future is not evaulating what we have today and were we have been...its about seeing where things will go...
This is the single biggest reason why Apple sees this as the next big "thing" next to the Mac and the iPod...has very little to do with it being a phone..
Enough about the charging
Now, if they had a better browers...I wouldn't have had these bad posts.
Now, if they had a better browers...I wouldn't have had these bad posts.
Enough about the charging
Do you really think that Apple will sell a product that can't be charged except if it is connected to a computer?
Seriously people...think about the question...
They would sell a mobile phone that couldn't just be plugged into the wall and charged?
Seriously people...
Do you really think that Apple will sell a product that can't be charged except if it is connected to a computer?
Seriously people...think about the question...
They would sell a mobile phone that couldn't just be plugged into the wall and charged?
Seriously people...
It's not that the iPhone is revolutionary, it does what other phones have been able of doing for years and made them much more user friendly, intuitive, and pretty.
I find it ironic to think people would want to add third-party apps to a phone/iPod. Do you currently have 3rd party apps on your iPod? What do you need on your phone that you currenty don't have? If you must add apps, maybe you need a PDA which is a different market.
Finally, I think it's funny when they talk about cell phones they NEVER mention voice quality. It's always on the bells and whistles. I have yet to find a cell phone and carrier that provides great voice clarity (5x5 so to speak).
Thread #500 is irrelevent and I'm getting tired with people raising it every other post. Just because many were wrong about iPod doesn't mean it's not possible to say some products are (almost certainly) duds. There is absolutely no way a $500-600 plus two year commitment phone is going to be a roaring success. Jobs himself has said as much, he's only expecting a 1% marketshare (which actually probably means he's expecting 2%, but, whatever.)
iPhone 2 may be a success. iPhone with heavy price cuts may be a success. iPhone at $500-600 plus Cingular charges for two years will not be. End of story. It's not going to sell.
iPhone's real legacy, and real measure of success, will be on the effect it has on phones from now on.
There's a lot of clueless people on here. They seem to think that iPhone can bring functionality that no other phone has ever before.
To these people: Go and look at the specs of other smarthones. You'll see they are in every way as functional as the iPhone. In fact, the delivery far more functionality than the iPhone.
The only thing the iPhone has going for it is the GUI. You pay a high price for a phone with a very nice GUI and limited functionality ( Apple inflicted ).
No one is forcing any one to install 3rd party apps - those who should, shouldn't be stopped. If they do , then perhaps they will lose their right to technical support when the phone is FUBAR'ed. It really is called flexible.
I really don't know why people are comparing iPod and third party apps.
Jobs said iPhone is a smartphone. Smartphones can install 3rd party apps. People expect this.
The web browser is nothing new in the iPhone either since Nokia uses webkit.
To these people: Go and look at the specs of other smarthones. You'll see they are in every way as functional as the iPhone. In fact, the delivery far more functionality than the iPhone.
The only thing the iPhone has going for it is the GUI. You pay a high price for a phone with a very nice GUI and limited functionality ( Apple inflicted ).
No one is forcing any one to install 3rd party apps - those who should, shouldn't be stopped. If they do , then perhaps they will lose their right to technical support when the phone is FUBAR'ed. It really is called flexible.
I really don't know why people are comparing iPod and third party apps.
Jobs said iPhone is a smartphone. Smartphones can install 3rd party apps. People expect this.
The web browser is nothing new in the iPhone either since Nokia uses webkit.
It is that the iPhone is revolutionary. It's not revolutionary because it does a bunch of other things that other products can't do. It is revolutionary because it does what other products have been attempting to do for years. It is an all-in-one device that is easy to use and does all of its functions efficiently.
I think this would be easier to see if it was broken from the phone mold. I understand it can't be used without activating it as a phone, but I'd buy one even if it had no phone capabilities (I'm sure some people would prefer buy it if it didnt have phone capabilities).
I wasn't trying to answer your question, I was pointing out that the question itself is meaningless. The two phones I described cannot be equalled either. The iPhone will only meet the same needs of Nokia Communicator users in the same way as the Nokia Communicator meets the needs of iPhone users. The same goes for the Blackberry. There are plenty of "revolutionary" phones out there that cannot be equalled.
This concept is foreign to Mac users because they're not used to it. Back in the 1980s, we may have had a wide variety of different types of computer, but that age disappeared a long time ago. When people compare Macs to PCs, they're comparing desktops to desktops, desktops that have more in common than they have different.
Boy, you're not even trying to understand are you?
I wasn't trying to answer your question. Your question made no sense so it wasn't answerable. There is nothing that will match the iPhone, but there is nothing that matches the Blackberry or the Communicator either.
No, I'm not. And I find it ironic. If I was, I wouldn't be telling you your question makes no sense.
This is a device that will not take off. It's being sold at $600 plus contract. iPhone's successor may well take off, but this one will not. It's a concept device, not a product. Even Jobs knows that this'll flop. He's predicting 1%. I think he thinks it'll be more like 2, though I'm having doubts even 1% is achievable given the attempt to sell it the way it is.
What comes after it from Apple is open to question. I can see a $500 unit with no phone functionality (except perhaps VoIP) being a success. I can see a $250 plus contact (say, $600 unlocked) unit incorporating the phone, and being slightly smaller, being a success.
Either way, to say "There is nothing in the market like this" is a nonsense. It's not that it's not true, it's that it's irrelevent. There's nothing in the market like the Nokia Communicator, and nothing in the market like the Blackberry. There's nothing in the market like the Nokia 770 (or 800)
You need to be more than unique to sell, and if you're going to market yourself as a phone, you need to be a product that fits within that market. By being huge, and being expensive, the iPhone just doesn't cut it.
In reality, the iPhone's achievements will be in terms of what it does to the phone market, not whether it sells.
Hmm.
Reason Mac was successful - User Interface.
Reason iPod was successful - User Interface.
Reason iPhone will be sucessful - User Interface.
--They are, of course, not the only reasons...but pretty big ones..
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=D8E8F6B&nplm=MA592LL/A
those things are tiny and work as they should:
Could the answer be partially that he didn't want the FCC to let out the news, and partially that they have nearly 200 patents on this device? It's apparently going to be very hard to copy this thing - legally, at least.
No, it isn't.
Thread #500.
Like I said, most posters here make better hot air generators than they do marketers. One reason is that they don't have a good grasp of markets. They tend to think of singular, monolithic markets consisting of all possible users.
That's not how markets work, and that's not how marketers work. Products don't define markets; users define markets. Folks who start from the product and try to forecast from that are doomed to failure (particularly when they ignore that the vast amount of cell phone users actually DO pay for two year contracts from their cell providers). And THAT is the real lesson from thread #500.