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The amount of taxes companies pay compared to average employee is laughable. What EU should do in general is to apply flat rate as a base and then brackets where you can use creative accounting but the flat rate wouldn't be touched. If we had income as Apple (for example) as employees we would pay around 55% or so in taxes and yet Apple does single digits (i believe).
Tax system shouldn't reward the rich and creative whilst punishing 'normal' people (mostly middle class gets hit the hardest)
By design this is to encourage people to start businesses who then hire workers and boost the economy. A middle class worker will only spend money on himself and maybe his family. A business pays for a handful of families all the way up to hundreds of thousands of families and all of the economic waves that happen because of that.

Its exactly WHY businesses hardly pay taxes, the whole point is to discourage being an employee and encourage business ownership.
 
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Another European tax and penalty on top of a thousand European taxes and penalties.

None of it improves competition. It discourages competition and that’s why the EU and UK’s tech sector collapsed and never made a comeback.

Remember when they fined the hell out of Microsoft and then Microsoft just passed the costs on to consumers and became an even bigger monopoly. Because it discouraged anyone from trying to become a successful competitor because most start ups and mid size companies can’t afford long court cases and endless penalties.
 
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This crap never does anything except cost the end consumer more money as companies will always pass on the costs.
That’s exactly the plan, because local companies won’t have that cost and thus can be more competitive in their pricing.
 
Yea, no way did that have ANYTHING to do with covid, massive inflation from money over printing, etc.

Every major country did massive money printing. But the EU, and especially the UK, inflation is largely driven by illegal immigration competiting for housing and food.

There’s also a massive amount of property price manipulation driven by dirty money laundering from China, Iran and Qatar. Successive British governments turned a blind eye to it. Qatar, Iran and Russia were buying up land and politicians. They even bought off the universities which ended up radicalising liberal students to become pro-jihadis.
 
Absolutely right. Poland has 0 domestic competition to those services, thus this is just a tax on their own citizens who will have no alternatives.

And that's the reasoning behind such a tax. Polland has a lot of good tech people who come up with a lot of good idea. But for years, those people don't have the scaffolding of a local industry to grow their ideas.

Projekt Red ( the Witcher games, Cyberpunk 2077 ) = Polish

Motion VFx + Polish ( https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/16/apple-acquires-motionvfx/ )

But the IT sector in Poland has, for the most part, funneled local talent into multinationals, rather than develop homegrown businesses.

Then point of the tax is to funnel that money in building local businesses instead of just selling talent and ideas to outside companies, so getting multinationals to subsidize a sustaining tech sector, rather than just resource-stripping it.

US big tech stays big by stripping resources, talent and ideas from outside the USA. Mitigating against this is a good thing for tech overall. More development by a far wider range of companies international, rather than the magnificent seven, leads to a far healthier tech industry overall.


 
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The markets are up overall except for a small dip around April 2025.
That was non responsive. The point turbineseaplane made was about prices to consumers, not stock market prices. I'm sure you understand we are in an AI investment bubble and that the Magnificent Seven make up about ⅓ of the S&P 500. Goldman said AI-related spending is expected to account for about 40% of the S&P 500 growth this year. Once that bubble pops and/or Trump lets his war in the Middle East destroy much more of the oil-producing infrastructure, you can expect that no one will be happy with the market. Meanwhile, consumer prices escalate and Trump manipulates market moves for people who can get away with insider trading.
 
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Every major country did massive money printing. But the EU, and especially the UK, inflation is largely driven by illegal immigration competiting for housing and food.
No, it's not. Inflation in Europe has been driven by a housing and property crisis and an aging demographic combined with increasing costs in international energy and increasing costs in commodities and raw materials. COVID caused a massive spike in inflation, but mostly, that been brought under control, despite the subsequent war in Ukraine ( expensive for Europe ) and now in the Middle East.

The UK's inflation is due mostly to the costs to their economy associated with Brexit.
 
Is this a time when EU regulators will wait until something is in place and then go, “No, we don’t like that?” They waited for YEARS after Ireland’s actions to say, “Took us awhile, but we don’t like what you’re doing there.”
 
That was non responsive. The point turbineseaplane made was about prices to consumers, not stock market prices. I'm sure you understand we are in an AI investment bubble and that the Magnificent Seven make up about ⅓ of the S&P 500. Goldman said AI-related spending is expected to account for about 40% of the S&P 500 growth this year. Once that bubble pops and/or Trump lets his war in the Middle East destroy much more of the oil-producing infrastructure, you can expect that no one will happy with the market. Meanwhile, consumer prices escalate and Trump manipulates market moves for people who can get away with insider trading.
From my perspective that is what is important right now. And my post reflected that and It is objectively true. And I agree in the future anything can happen. And we will get to see who are the winner and losers.
 
From my perspective that is what is important right now. And my post reflected that and It is objectively true. And I agree in the future anything can happen. And we will get to see who are the winner and losers.
Worst stock market performance at this point in an administration since GW Bush.
 
Corporations in general should be taxed more. Such taxes need not affect consumer's wallets; just take it out of the corp's profits.

Taxes on predatory business notions like selling user data and intrusive ads is a good thing, as such taxes will deter these bad business practices. Tax what you want less of, and subsidize what you want more of.
 
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Not all jobs can do that and if all did that then it would be a disaster for everyone. As the saying goes "if everyone has a business than noone has a business"


By design this is to encourage people to start businesses who then hire workers and boost the economy. A middle class worker will only spend money on himself and maybe his family. A business pays for a handful of families all the way up to hundreds of thousands of families and all of the economic waves that happen because of that.

Its exactly WHY businesses hardly pay taxes, the whole point is to discourage being an employee and encourage business ownership.
 
"I see you have a lot of money. We'd like some of that money. I think we'll just go ahead and create a tax to get some of that money."
 
"I see you have a lot of money. We'd like some of that money. I think we'll just go ahead and create a tax to get some of that money."
Isn't that how Apple thinks? Apple: "I see you have a lot of money. I'd like some of that money. I think I'll just go ahead and deliver a worse product at higher cost to get some of that money and boost corporate profits for our $4 trillion dollar corporation."
 
The issue is that big tech likes to collect revenue worldwide but does not pay any corporate taxes where this revenue is earned. When corporate taxes effectively are not collectible, it's only reasonable to look at other types of taxes. I'm actually suprised they chose such a low percentage value.
 
These sorts of things would be a lot more defensible if they had them apply to all companies operating in Poland rather than only companies "making over €1 billion globally and more than $6.79 million in Poland." That's just using foreign companies as a piggy bank.

If it's good enough for American companies it should be good enough for Polish ones too.
Well it is an imperfect solution, and It’s most likely intended to tax multinationals that tends to revenue shift ( aka 99% American firms).

Most other firms are already taxes locally because most nations don’t tax companies profits made from abroad. And the polish firms are also already taxed.
And who is paying for the tax at the end?

Think sales tax. 🥲
lol, everyone pays VAT tax already. This is corporate tax
The amount of taxes companies pay compared to average employee is laughable. What EU should do in general is to apply flat rate as a base and then brackets where you can use creative accounting but the flat rate wouldn't be touched. If we had income as Apple (for example) as employees we would pay around 55% or so in taxes and yet Apple does single digits (i believe).
Tax system shouldn't reward the rich and creative whilst punishing 'normal' people (mostly middle class gets hit the hardest)
Europe has far fewer and simpler tax system and brackets than the U.S. and EU do not have tax authority, its exclusive mwmberstate territory just like this law Poland implemented.

The issue with creative accounting, aka revenue shifting is largely an American problem because of your global taxation regime. It’s very hard when **Apple daughter company A** in Poland, pays **Apple daughter company B** in Ireland close to full price with minimal margins to cover local running costs close to zero profits, to then itself pay **Apple inc ** in the U.S. full price so that they make again little to no profits.

Apple might have 1 billion in profits in Poland, but they revenue shifting it so that it appears that they have 1million in profits. Yet despite the corporate taxrate is 20% it only affects the 1 million instead of the full 1 billion. This 3% revenue tax is intended to capture this lost revenue


Another European tax and penalty on top of a thousand European taxes and penalties.

None of it improves competition. It discourages competition and that’s why the EU and UK’s tech sector collapsed and never made a comeback.

Remember when they fined the hell out of Microsoft and then Microsoft just passed the costs on to consumers and became an even bigger monopoly. Because it discouraged anyone from trying to become a successful competitor because most start ups and mid size companies can’t afford long court cases and endless penalties.
Lol Europe has simpler and fewer tax laws and brackets than the U.S.
and nobody is discouraged from becoming a big firm and make more money. And this absolutely encourages competition, it’s just discriminatory to non polish companies or large multinationals…

Microsoft being fined for breaking the law is their own fault and had zero relevance to them becoming a bigger dominant firm.

In a globalized economy it’s wasteful to copy and do the same things when someone else can do it better.

EU needs the EU inc initiative but more aggressively implemented.
Is this a time when EU regulators will wait until something is in place and then go, “No, we don’t like that?” They waited for YEARS after Ireland’s actions to say, “Took us awhile, but we don’t like what you’re doing there.”

Eu regulators didn’t wait years, you can’t prosecute something that you’re not aware of. And there’s nothing wrong with this revenue tax legally.
 
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Poland's a democratic country with elected representatives. So if The People choose to enact taxes, that is the will of The People, to fund the government programs the people desire. Corporate non-democratic tyrannies such as Apple didn't have to do business in Poland if they are averse to taxation.
 
And I’m very, very happy with my returns.

If you've been buying into the bubble, then I can understand why you would be happy. I've been through several of these now. Good luck. Don't ride your investments back down when the bubble pops. I'm sure you are smart enough to know that, but cognitive biases like loss aversion, sunk-cost thinking, anchoring, and the endowment effect can even throw the most savvy economics professor into the red.
 
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