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MacDawg said:Does anybody else find it funny that the people who disable signatures still have one themselves??
Depends on if theirs is political or not, I suppose. Mine is totally irrelevant to anything! I just like posting crazy quotes most of the time.
I tried one "politically-charged" quote a few weeks back, but it was just talking about excercising your right to vote, not who to vote for.
I think the obnoxiousness level of a political sig depends. A quick "Kerry/Edwards '04" or "Bush/Cheney '04" can only be offensive if you're a die-hard supporter of the opponent ticket and can't stand anyone who doesn't think like you do; or if you're someone who's so thoroughly disgusted or apathetic about the whole thing that you don't even want to see a mention of the entire campaign or your eyes will bleed.
Interestingly, I just went to the political forum, and the most decidedly partisan sig I could find was just such a quickie, one-line endorsement.
Diatribe, do you object to sigs with definite partisan leanings, or just any quote with any political relevance whatsoever? Does it matter if the sig is just "whoever in '04", or does it particularly bother you more when it's a longer and more negative/pointed comment?
And as to not being from the US and thus not wanting to deal with our politics.....well, I'm not from Spain, but I wouldn't bat an eye if you were to put up a sig denouncing/supporting the Basque separatists. If it's important enough to you to want to show it on this forum, I can't see complaining that I shouldn't have to look at anything that doesn't have to do with my own country.
Interestingly, I just went to the political forum, and the most decidedly partisan sig I could find was just such a quickie, one-line endorsement.
Diatribe, do you object to sigs with definite partisan leanings, or just any quote with any political relevance whatsoever? Does it matter if the sig is just "whoever in '04", or does it particularly bother you more when it's a longer and more negative/pointed comment?
And as to not being from the US and thus not wanting to deal with our politics.....well, I'm not from Spain, but I wouldn't bat an eye if you were to put up a sig denouncing/supporting the Basque separatists. If it's important enough to you to want to show it on this forum, I can't see complaining that I shouldn't have to look at anything that doesn't have to do with my own country.
Arn for president!Diatribe said:
I agree, and I sure wish those europeans would quit saying the US election is the end-all, and stop mouthing off about our election. Though I think your statement would better read this way:Diatribe said:
America is not all that important as some Europeans might think sometimes.
Hopefully my revised sig will meet with your ok a bit better now that I've found the size tag
relimw said:Arn for president!
I agree, and I sure wish those europeans would quit saying the US election is the end-all, and stop mouthing off about our election.
i hope you mean the MacRumors Arn, and not "the governator"
I think most of the world has an eye on the US elections, it is extremely important for people outside of the States, i'm English myself (but in NY) so I can say for a fact that there'll be plenty of people hoping for one or the other over here.
I try to ignore it. If it is too big, I might take offense, get annoyed, or throw something. It really depends. (I would never throw my PowerBook, BTW!)
And yes my sig is long, but it really is just system stats. If anyone complains, I'll make it smaller. But so far, so good.
And yes my sig is long, but it really is just system stats. If anyone complains, I'll make it smaller. But so far, so good.
my political statement is a joke among me and my friends involving a write-in candidate who happens to be my orchestra director. but i'm not of voting age yet...
Diatribe said:
Of course the future of the entire planet depends on the US. Haven't you seen Armagedeon?
My god man, who else will stop that asteroid, France?
As for sigs, they're little patterns of speech and should be celebrated for the color they add, just like avatars.
As for lawn signs, I have one up because I want to show support for my particular horse, it's my lawnnot so much a lawn as rock and mesquite trees, but I digressand so is my sig, which is probably annoying to someone because it's didactic, or long winded, or doesn't include a European statesman, etc.
I think we're all too concerned with what personally offends us, too busy considering how we feel about someone else's ideas. At some point, you're right to fling your arms ends where my nose begins, but that grey area in between exists for both of us. Not just for you Diatribe and your personal feelings about the US election or political sigs, but all of us. You have to try to respect both, and understand that sometimes you will simply be outvoted.
If we kept down every impulse that might offend, quieted every movement so as not to excite, kept the music turned low, and the art in nice subtle greys, we would be a species of mutes, statues, and artless automatons.
From Mark Twain's Innocents Abroad: "There they are, down there every night at eight bells, praying for fair windswhen they know as well as I do that this is the only ship going east this time of the year, but there's a thousand coming westwhat's a fair wind for us is a head wind to themthe Almighty's blowing a fair wind for a thousand vessels, and this tribe wants him to turn it clear around so as to accommodate oneand she's a steamership at that! It ain't good sense, it ain't good reason, it ain't good Christianity, it ain't common human charity..."
rueyeet said:
If you'd have read my posts in this thread you would know the answer to your first question...
And again, if you'd have read my other posts in this thread you could've saved the second paragraph too. After reading them I'd be more than happy to discuss any further questions/comments/etc.
Edit: I don't want to sound like an arrogant ass here, but I didn't find a nicer way to say that I don't like saying things twice. Sorry.
BTW, just because I am currently in Spain does not mean I am Spanish... assumptions will destroy the world some time...
hulugu said:
rofl
hulugu said:
Geez, doesn't anyone read all the comments anymore before thay post?
It's post #24
and to make it clear again... I am not offended, I am annoyed. Annoyed not by who votes for who, but by the colored, resized, altered font type sigs that use a polemic statement Or does your sign say "I'd never vote for the chimp, vote for the smart guy!", or "The switchboat guy sucks, let's elect the awesome farm hunter!"?
I think Dr. Q said all that needs to be or can be said on this topic. Seems to me that we're all clear now and just going in circles... :-/
That is exactly the specific I was looking for....and y'know, I find any colored and large-type sig annoying no matter WHAT'S in it, political or otherwise.Diatribe said:
But I do think that the moderators have taken the best tactic to only put the kabosh the ones that visually overwhelm post text, without censoring based on content.And I wouldn't assume you had to be Spanish to have an opinion of the events occuring in the country you're currently inhabiting. I was a bit worried about the issue myself for a while, as a friend of mine spent a year studying in Spain.
rueyeet said:That is exactly the specific I was looking for....and y'know, I find any colored and large-type sig annoying no matter WHAT'S in it, political or otherwise.
Only that I had written that before already.
But at least we agree now.
jtgotsjets said:
Impact? Pleeeease, the only impact that cardboard signs have is to divide local communities into opposing support groups for our grandiose two party system in which there is no right or wrong choice. If this were an exercise in free speech than they should be speaking out with their own voices and creating their own signs instead of buying into the two party propaganda wagon.
paulypants said:
More like the support of the lesser of two evils
Lets move on here and take any discussion like this to the right forum.
Thanks,
D
I don't mind, even if I disagree. I like free speech. Some people have stupid signatures, some are cool, some are funny. Some make you think, while some are just blip-verts. Not up to me, it's up to us (and to a greater extent, the moderators). If a sig, or post, is SPAM... I like that it gets killed. I like that people who's only reasons for being here are to annoy or cause trouble are quickly asked to leave. And even better when the banned can make amends and return as useful citizens.
I try to be open-minded. (Though I do not disagree with your point, it can be annoying when improperly abused)
I try to be open-minded. (Though I do not disagree with your point, it can be annoying when improperly abused)
solvs,
We did this thing on signatures, and there are some huge ones that have popped up.
Just saw one that looked like it was 15 lines long-- in default text -- and the posts were only a single/couple/few lines.
Talk about the confusion in trying to figure out if the person even is posting a comment worth reading, and where it's at.
We did this thing on signatures, and there are some huge ones that have popped up.
Just saw one that looked like it was 15 lines long-- in default text -- and the posts were only a single/couple/few lines.
Talk about the confusion in trying to figure out if the person even is posting a comment worth reading, and where it's at.
Maybe I just haven't been on MR enough lately, but I haven't seen any overdone political sigs.
The most obtrusive sig I saw was in ~15 pt. type, in caps, red, about four letters long. But that's the worse political one I've seen.
Anyway, I like the political sigs in the same way I like sigs in general -- it gives you a little information on who the person is. For example, if their sig says "Vote for _________," then you can say, "What a moron -- vote for _________?!"
-- or conversely, "Genius. That's exactly who I'm voting for, too."
The most obtrusive sig I saw was in ~15 pt. type, in caps, red, about four letters long. But that's the worse political one I've seen.
Anyway, I like the political sigs in the same way I like sigs in general -- it gives you a little information on who the person is. For example, if their sig says "Vote for _________," then you can say, "What a moron -- vote for _________?!"
-- or conversely, "Genius. That's exactly who I'm voting for, too."
paulypants said:
I made my Green Party sign out of recycled green paper and soda cans, does that count?