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Should the 3.5 mm headphone jack be removed with the next iPhone?

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Without the headphone jack, there will still be *holes* in the edges of the phone--holes that presumably water can get into. So people need to put on their common sense hats a bit when linking the headphone jack with waterproofing.
Not saying I know it for fact, but I've read that speakers are easier to waterproof than the headphone jack and that a lot of the phones advertised as "waterproof" actually don't meet the specifications for that labeling.

Could anyone comment on this? I'm genuinely curious to know if there's any truth to those statements.
 
I use more than just headphones with my 6 including a shutter tester that I use on all my medium and large format lenses for work. So needless to say, if the 7 has no headphone jack, I am pretty sure I am passing on it, might order a 6S but more than likely will just stick with my 6 as long as I can, get a new battery for it if the need arises.
 
I use more than just headphones with my 6 including a shutter tester that I use on all my medium and large format lenses for work. So needless to say, if the 7 has no headphone jack, I am pretty sure I am passing on it, might order a 6S but more than likely will just stick with my 6 as long as I can, get a new battery for it if the need arises.

I just learned that Apple won't replace the battery in your 6 unless it agrees that the battery needs replacing. I'm not sure when the cutoff is, but I went in to have my 6 Plus battery replaced because it only holds 84% of the charge it used to, and Apple said no. They claimed about 1,000 cycles before they will replace. That sucks. We should be able to go in and say "replace it," and not have to argue.
 
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I just learned that Apple won't replace the battery in your 6 unless it agrees that the battery needs replacing. I'm not sure when the cutoff is, but I went in to have my 6 Plus battery replaced because it only holds 84% of the charge it used to, and Apple said no. They claimed about 1,000 cycles before they will replace. That sucks. We should be able to go in and say "replace it," and not have to argue.

Thanks, good info. Mine is at 96% with 411 cycles so maybe I will just get a 6S to buy some time. Also, are there not third party techs who can do it for a fee?
 
If iOS devices where not so finicky with cords, I wouldn't say it's a bad move. But the "This Accessory Is Not Supported" pop up happens too often, even with cords from Apple and the 3rd party ones they sell on their site.

Cause of that, I picked No.
 
Thanks, good info. Mine is at 96% with 411 cycles so maybe I will just get a 6S to buy some time. Also, are there not third party techs who can do it for a fee?

I think you're going to want to figure out how to live with the 7. It's not a good idea to buy one-generation-old tech, especially iPhones, which Apple will figure out how to make obsolete with their incessant iOS upgrades that slow down older devices. The 6S is not a perfect phone by any stretch. In fact, it's worse than the 6 in some important respects, I think: It's heavier, thicker, has a tinnier and less loud speaker, smaller battery. 3D touch is so forgettable that I ended up being pissed at knowing the phone was thicker and heavier primarily to accommodate that stupid feature that's useful 10% of the time. The best things about the "S" are that it's faster and the fingerprint sensor works a tad faster. These things really don't make up for the downgrades inherent in the phone, IMO.
 
I think you're going to want to figure out how to live with the 7. It's not a good idea to buy one-generation-old tech, especially iPhones, which Apple will figure out how to make obsolete with their incessant iOS upgrades that slow down older devices. The 6S is not a perfect phone by any stretch. In fact, it's worse than the 6 in some important respects, I think: It's heavier, thicker, has a tinnier and less loud speaker, smaller battery. 3D touch is so forgettable that I ended up being pissed at knowing the phone was thicker and heavier primarily to accommodate that stupid feature that's useful 10% of the time. The best things about the "S" are that it's faster and the fingerprint sensor works a tad faster. These things really don't make up for the downgrades inherent in the phone, IMO.

Cool, I'll just stick with my 6 then. I have been a pro user of Apple products since 1992 and to be quite honest, I am pretty put off by the whole gadget chasing society we now live in. I use my phone less and less as people seem to be using theirs non-stop. I can make this phone stretch out, just not update apps and iOS and really, it's all smooth sailing.

Another reason I should stick with it is that in all likelihood even the 6S would ship with iOS 10 and I can not take the chance of a critical app I use lagging with an update like they did the last time I got a new phone.

Maybe by the 7S or 8 the bugs with going without a 3.5mm jack will be worked out and I can move ahead, right now I am just not taking the chance.
 
Cool, I'll just stick with my 6 then. I have been a pro user of Apple products since 1992 and to be quite honest, I am pretty put off by the whole gadget chasing society we now live in. I use my phone less and less as people seem to be using theirs non-stop. I can make this phone stretch out, just not update apps and iOS and really, it's all smooth sailing.

Another reason I should stick with it is that in all likelihood even the 6S would ship with iOS 10 and I can not take the chance of a critical app I use lagging with an update like they did the last time I got a new phone.

Maybe by the 7S or 8 the bugs with going without a 3.5mm jack will be worked out and I can move ahead, right now I am just not taking the chance.
What bugs are you envisioning by the removal of a hardware feature?

I'm bummed about the loss of the jack myself but I don't see how omitting it would somehow cause bugs.
 
Cool, I'll just stick with my 6 then. I have been a pro user of Apple products since 1992 and to be quite honest, I am pretty put off by the whole gadget chasing society we now live in. I use my phone less and less as people seem to be using theirs non-stop. I can make this phone stretch out, just not update apps and iOS and really, it's all smooth sailing.

Another reason I should stick with it is that in all likelihood even the 6S would ship with iOS 10 and I can not take the chance of a critical app I use lagging with an update like they did the last time I got a new phone.

Maybe by the 7S or 8 the bugs with going without a 3.5mm jack will be worked out and I can move ahead, right now I am just not taking the chance.

Good move to stick with the 6 if you're satisfied. DON'T update iOS. I'm still on 8.x.x with mine.

You're right: less is more.

I'll probably update because I prefer to have a snappier phone. Did enjoy that about the "S" when I owned it for a couple of weeks. I think smartphones are where we were with computers when Windows 95 was out: still needing and benefitting from faster hardware. Soon the hardware will be fast enough, though, and then the upgrades can stretch out much longer.

I'm writing this from a 7-year-old Windows 7 machine, and it's still more than fast enough for me. Don't plan on upgrading this until I absolutely have to, perhaps sometime after 2020.
 
What bugs are you envisioning by the removal of a hardware feature?

I'm bummed about the loss of the jack myself but I don't see how omitting it would somehow cause bugs.

The bugs could be from needing an adapter, headphones might work fine but my shutter tester could fall victim. I would likely test it out on someone else's phone before committing to it.
 
The bugs could be from needing an adapter, headphones might work fine but my shutter tester could fall victim. I would likely test it out on someone else's phone before committing to it.
Understood. I guess I wasn't thinking you were referring to adapters. That will likely be baked into iOS 10 (unless it's already there and we don't know it). I don't imagine the code will be unique to the newer devices though I could be wrong. I believe we are able to use lightning headphones right now, so I don't imagine there would be an complication here.
 
They should not. Gotta start with the new connector then make people use both for audio and maybe with iphone 7S remove it as people will have enough time to adapt.
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Yeah, its time to fix something that is not broken so Apple Geek Developers has something to do.
 
I will only accept the next iPhone if it has the following:

1) Waterproof
2) Wireless or Inductive Charging with the mat included
3) Bluetooth Airpods that can be easily charged by placing on mat
 
I don't WANT NO adapter!

People are acting like Apple actually makes good quality EarPods. They don't!

And now, something else to charge? Another piece of plastic to lug around? I mean, you're losing usability right there.

How can Bluetooth become standard. I doubt Apple would ever lead the pack with an idea like that.
 
I will only accept the next iPhone if it has the following:

1) Waterproof
2) Wireless or Inductive Charging with the mat included
3) Bluetooth Airpods that can be easily charged by placing on mat
I'm gonna assume that water proof is out...for now at least.
I'll also say that wireless will be out.
Blue tooth airpods are possible...but easily charged on mat? more like connect to the lightening adapter.
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I don't WANT NO adapter!

People are acting like Apple actually makes good quality EarPods. They don't!

And now, something else to charge? Another piece of plastic to lug around? I mean, you're losing usability right there.

How can Bluetooth become standard. I doubt Apple would ever lead the pack with an idea like that.
If it does come out like that..we should wait for reviews. Anyway..I hear you.
 
Good move to stick with the 6 if you're satisfied. DON'T update iOS. I'm still on 8.x.x with mine.

You're right: less is more.

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I'm probably going to keep my 6 too, but I don't buy into the whole not updating the OS philosophy. Trust me, your 6 will work perfectly on all versions of iOS 9. Mine does. And I'm going to upgrade it to 10. I always keep my devices up to date with the the latest OS, so that I have access to the latest features (and security patches), and I haven't encountered decreased performance that people always worry about. Even my mother's 5s in on 9.3.4 with no problems. Updates are meant to improve your device.
 
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