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Are you upgrading to Sonoma?

  • Yes, I have 14.0 and I am happy.

    Votes: 81 51.9%
  • Not immediateley, but I will if 14.1 or 14.2 is released.

    Votes: 51 32.7%
  • No, I stay with Ventura or Monterey.

    Votes: 23 14.7%
  • I have upgraded but I am returning to a previous MacOS.

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    156

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The new MacOS is out. Are you upgrading?
Sorry, I made a mistake: it should be: WHEN 14.1 or 14.2 is released.
 
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My general plan is to wait for .1 release and then wait a week, if there was no additional updates then I install. It there was a change within a week, I keep waiting until a week passed without any additional updates

Exception being security updates.
 
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Updated and its much faster and seems very stable compared with Ventura, well that's how it feels on my M2 Mac Mini Pro 1tb. I always say I wont update on day one but it does feel better than Ventura, although Im not a widget fan. I'm happy if its more stable and it seems a better launch than Ventura, we really need less bling and more stability. Maybe This will be the one as its quite a minor update in the grand scheme of things, cant see why 2017 iMacs could not run it tbh.
 
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Upgraded and it's fine. Come across a few bugs with most the built-in and third-party apps. But they are minor annoyances that will likely get fixed.
 
I'm still stuck on Catalina with my old 27-inch mac, unable to upgrade it further, but i've just ordered a new mac that's coming next month so Sonoma will be a nice 4x upgrade
 
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Still on the latest Monterey version on my M1 Air. I see no rush in updating, also iPhone 14 Pro still 16.7 ...sure, i need to update to IOS 17 if i want to upgrade Watch OS to 10...but then it would be same to install Sonoma and no Ventura. Basically skipped Ventura...the horror of the new preference panel, which is also on Sonoma. Imho, been using Monerey for a time and its been very stable and currently all programs are compatible and no bugs popping, still the sweet spot imho. Its good to lag behind some.
 
I'm on Ventura and my M1 iMac is running really well. I'm in two minds whether to update to Sonoma or not!
I'm worried that because I only have the 8GB ram version, Sonoma may be too demanding and slow it down.
 
I'm on Ventura and my M1 iMac is running really well. I'm in two minds whether to update to Sonoma or not!
I'm worried that because I only have the 8GB ram version, Sonoma may be too demanding and slow it down.
i have 8gb ram, and there's no slowdown here. no reason there should be, sonoma is not eating up ram.... it's more about the apps you use...
 
I usually either wait for multiple point releases or skip a major version or two altogether. My iMac went straight from Mojave to Ventura. The M1 Air went straight from Big Sur to Ventura. I also like to do a clean install as an opportunity to get rid of unused apps and get rid of all the crap that accumulates over time.

But all talk of Sonoma has been that it's a much more minor update and pretty stable. Since my wife's M1 Air needs to get off the now unsupported Big Sur, I decided to be the guinea pig and try a straight upgrade from Ventura 13.6 on my M1 Air (iMac is unsupported, will hold off for stable OCLP support).

Upgrade was quick, and aside from iCloud Drive redownloading everything (apparently Optimize Mac Storage was fixed in Sonoma, so that's actually a good thing), it's been remarkably smooth.
  • All of my critical apps work well, including some older Rosetta 2 apps.
  • New Aerial screensavers+desktop background combo are pretty cool. Would be nice if you could use your own 4K videos for this too.
  • I'm actually curious to try Presenter Overlay and other videoconferencing features in my next Zoom call (interested to see how well they work in a third party app, too).
  • One visual bug I've noticed: when composing this comment in Safari (and another one earlier), text from one paragraph sometimes visually overlays another one. Weird glitch.
 

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I'm still stuck on Catalina with my old 27-inch mac, unable to upgrade it further, but i've just ordered a new mac that's coming next month so Sonoma will be a nice 4x upgrade
I’m curious. Which Mac are you getting? There’s so many good options right now. I have an 14” M2 Pro MBP and a base M1 mini. Both are really great computers.
 
I’m curious. Which Mac are you getting? There’s so many good options right now. I have an 14” M2 Pro MBP and a base M1 mini. Both are really great computers.
I would have gone for another 27-inch if they did it, but I've decided to just hook a 15-inch MacBook Air up to a non-Apple display
 
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Updated and its much faster and seems very stable compared with Ventura, well that's how it feels on my M2 Mac Mini Pro 1tb. I always say I wont update on day one but it does feel better than Ventura, although Im not a widget fan. I'm happy if its more stable and it seems a better launch than Ventura, we really need less bling and more stability. Maybe This will be the one as its quite a minor update in the grand scheme of things, cant see why 2017 iMacs could not run it tbh.
Sounds good to me. Will update my Mini once 14.1 is out (=soon :)). Logic and all my AU stuff must be fully compatible.
 
My Mac isn't critical (that job goes the corporate Dell) so I upgraded immediately when offered. Only issue so far was a really weird glitch with sound on Microsoft Teams that required a reset. It's something we've not seen elsewhere so might be an OS level issue.

Edit: 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro (base)
 
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Is there any significant feature update or enhancement in Sonoma that is not in Monterey?

There's at least one known negative - the new mobile phone style system settings, which is one reason for never updowngrading to Ventura.

The interface is still worse than Catalina.
 
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Is there any significant feature update or enhancement in Sonoma that is not in Monterey?

There's at least one known negative - the new mobile phone style system settings, which is one reason for never updowngrading to Ventura.

The interface is still worse than Catalina.
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Widgets, video conferencing, hand reactions, new Safari features (I don't use it), and iphone features (I don't own one).

Viva Monterey.
 
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Not... Yet...

I use Screen Sharing extensively and over the years Apple has gotten it to work fantastically; even to the point where I can reliably reboot a machine and watch it reboot over the network - even with system-level FileVault turned on. This requires supplying login credentials before the system boots completely so that's pretty impressive.

Screen sharing has been re-done in Sonoma, and while I hear good things about performance getting even better, I'm reluctant to move forward until I know it works as solidly as the current version does.

Also, I had the fun experience of having custom disk icons and not being able to mount remote drives with those custom icons, which was one of the dumbest regressions I've seen in a long time, so I'm reluctant overall.

I've been upgrading Mac OS on day 1 for a very long time now, so this is a sea change for me.
 
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Not... Yet...

I use Screen Sharing extensively and over the years Apple has gotten it to work fantastically; even to the point where I can reliably reboot a machine and watch it reboot over the network - even with system-level FileVault turned on. This requires supplying login credentials before the system boots completely so that's pretty impressive.

Screen sharing has been re-done in Sonoma, and while I hear good things about performance getting even better, I'm reluctant to move forward until I know it works as solidly as the current version does.

Also, I had the fun experience of having custom disk icons and not being able to mount remote drives with those custom icons, which was one of the dumbest regressions I've seen in a long time, so I'm reluctant overall.

I've been upgrading Mac OS on day 1 for a very long time now, so this is a sea change for me.

Do you know the nature of the changes? Is performance better now? Is this Airplay to Mac or the old Screen Sharing in Finder?
 
Do you know the nature of the changes? Is performance better now? Is this Airplay to Mac or the old Screen Sharing in Finder?

The changes were described in one of the more in-depth reviews on Sonoma... If I can remember which one it was (likely ArsTechnica) I'll post it here.

Not Airplay, not Back to My Mac, but the app that you get if you use Finder (it's integrated with Finder loosely). The app's name is literally "Screen Sharing"
 
The changes were described in one of the more in-depth reviews on Sonoma... If I can remember which one it was (likely ArsTechnica) I'll post it here.

Not Airplay, not Back to My Mac, but the app that you get if you use Finder (it's integrated with Finder loosely). The app's name is literally "Screen Sharing"

I'm quite familiar with it. I assume that both client and server both have to be on Sonoma as I assume that there are efficiency improvements on data compression. I have a 2015 iMac and I guess I'd have to install OCLP to test it.
 
So I went through it and they now provide a basic interface that makes it easier to use. They also have a new high-performance mode but it only works on Sonoma to Sonoma on Apple Silicon. That's quite the shame as I'd love to try it on a 5k iMac. I'm wondering if the OCLP guys can turn this feature on for Intel Macs.

 
This new screen sharing support is great. I'm screen sharing from my Mac Studio in the basement to my M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 in the living room using High Performance mode and it's very nice. Sound comes through as well. I see some decent possibilities for this feature, mainly the ability to network computers together. I'm going to try it out with my Intel iMac to see what the performance delta is between Apple Silicon and Intel but I'll have to install OCLP to do this.
 
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