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I've bit my tongue and mostly just tried to treat this thread with the humor it deserves, but a few things have hit me over the past 12 hours.

For one thing, I've mentioned elsewhere my dearly beloved fiancé, who is a nurse and currently lives 2 states away from me(things are looking optimistic for that to change in the next few months, but nothing certain and COVID-19 is also throwing a bit of a wrench in the works).

In any case, I haven't seen her since the beginning of the month. Thanks to her state being under a stay-at-home order that just today was further extended to the end of April, that is the soonest I will be able to see her. Aside from that, she can't come to see me due to work restrictions, which won't allow her to travel anywhere now.

Furthermore, even though I'm upset about that, I'm even more concerned for her. She's a nurse. Just last night she said "I'm going to get it"(in reference to COVID-19). She's most likely right. So, even if there weren't legal restrictions against me going to see her, it would be a bad idea for me to do so. If she hasn't been exposed to it, she most likely will be and chances are high that if I were with her, I would be also(and able to spread it to others).

Even though she is in a low risk age group, low risk doesn't mean no-risk, and there's no way to know if she'd be in the "asymptomatic to mild" category or in the "on a ventilator" or even "dead" category. That scares me absolutely to death. I can probably reasonably avoid coming into contact with the virus if I'm careful, while her job puts her at high risk of it.

So, I'll say to the OP-get over it and don't whine on here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had to resort to having an important relationship in my life reduced to purely long distance because of it, and some for other reasons have had to deal with that for a whole lot longer.

Don't expect a lot of sympathy here from most anyone...and to quote a modern classic movie "keep your snake in its cage."
 
Was going to make a joke about the thread as a whole, but maybe I'll save it because this came up and I want to get in the habit of acting on opportunities like this:

my dearly beloved fiancé, who is a nurse

Please tell her "thank you". There's a lot of us trapped in our homes and we're all incredibly grateful to know that there are people out there ready to help us if we need it. I can't imagine the stress on her (and you!) right now. Hopefully it helps just a little bit to know people appreciate all that you're going through for us.
 

This made me LOL

Great job hahaha :D
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I've bit my tongue and mostly just tried to treat this thread with the humor it deserves, but a few things have hit me over the past 12 hours.

For one thing, I've mentioned elsewhere my dearly beloved fiancé, who is a nurse and currently lives 2 states away from me(things are looking optimistic for that to change in the next few months, but nothing certain and COVID-19 is also throwing a bit of a wrench in the works).

In any case, I haven't seen her since the beginning of the month. Thanks to her state being under a stay-at-home order that just today was further extended to the end of April, that is the soonest I will be able to see her. Aside from that, she can't come to see me due to work restrictions, which won't allow her to travel anywhere now.

Furthermore, even though I'm upset about that, I'm even more concerned for her. She's a nurse. Just last night she said "I'm going to get it"(in reference to COVID-19). She's most likely right. So, even if there weren't legal restrictions against me going to see her, it would be a bad idea for me to do so. If she hasn't been exposed to it, she most likely will be and chances are high that if I were with her, I would be also(and able to spread it to others).

Even though she is in a low risk age group, low risk doesn't mean no-risk, and there's no way to know if she'd be in the "asymptomatic to mild" category or in the "on a ventilator" or even "dead" category. That scares me absolutely to death. I can probably reasonably avoid coming into contact with the virus if I'm careful, while her job puts her at high risk of it.

So, I'll say to the OP-get over it and don't whine on here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had to resort to having an important relationship in my life reduced to purely long distance because of it, and some for other reasons have had to deal with that for a whole lot longer.

Don't expect a lot of sympathy here from most anyone...and to quote a modern classic movie "keep your snake in its cage."

I hope she has a mask!!! Or wahtever the proper protective equipment is. Best of luck to you both!!!
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I think the ability to go out is coming soon.

I think we've got this thing under control.

I already contacted my real estate agent this morning.

I'm planning on leasing a 2nd residence to have a place closer to my girl.

Things are starting to *feel* better especially after watching the White House press conference.

Hope is here! And the path forward to going out again is near :)
 
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Y’all,

I think I’m gonna make my move this week.

if 2 people have been quarantining and aren’t sick the chances are low right?

It’s under 10 which is allowed anyway.

it’s been long enough to know whether you have it or not.

right?
 
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The chances are low don’t you think? I’m just seeing 1 girl, it’s a group less than 10 as they say. Just 2...
But didn't they say less than 10 people is ok?

It's just 2 people total
So basically...if you go over to a girl's condo, drink wine, maybe have some fun...it doesn't matter if it's just 1 person...or 2 people total...
I just felt like if it's ONE person, it might be ok.
Like I'm going to meet up with only 1 girl, who has been quarantining a decent amount from what I know. Maybe she's met up with a friend or two besides her roommate but she's not going out to the bars (they're closed anyway lol).
Well I have no plans to meet so many. 5 is a lot if you ask me. 1 person, maybe a friend or girlfriend, seems less risky hopefully
if 2 people have been quarantining and aren’t sick the chances are low right?
So you’re only planning on meeting one person, right?
 
I'm not sure what message is being broadcast in the US, but the advice in the UK (is finally) very simple - STAY AT HOME.

The only way we as a civilisation get this thing under control is by slowing the spread of infection - that means, not going anywhere unless absolutely necessary. The more people that venture out for whatever reason (even what we're terming key workers - Medical Staff, Delivery Drivers, Supermarket Staff) the more we are at risk of spreading it.

I get that's hard being separated from the people you love - I know people who:

- haven't seen their kids for 2 weeks
- haven't seen their partner for 4 weeks
- whose father who has COPD and is currently in hospital fighting COVID-19 and she can't visit
- who work in a nursing home and is having to basically live in isolation in her own home to protect the people she cares for

My sisters children are currently exhibiting symptoms and she's a single mum, who's now having to self-isolate her family, including a son who has autism.

Based on what's happened in China, Italy and Spain I would be expecting any lockdown to last for at least 3 months. The UK Government, started off by stating 3 weeks, but slowly over the last week that message has started to change, it's not likely to be June before anything substantial begins to change and 6 months before we see a return to normality. Now go back to those people mentioned above and think what that means for them.

The virus is indiscriminate - it's killing anyone who is not able to fight it - there are no certainties here.

Simply stay in your home, get a NetFlix (or similar subscription) and catch-up on all those TV boxsets you've been missing out on.

This isn't about you or any one individual - it's about all of us - we're in it together, we need to stick together (but no closer than 2m / 6'6") and do everything we can.

Remember you can't see it, you don't know if you've got it, all you can do is stay away from others, and keep washing your hands, not touching your eyes, nose and mouth.

Finally given #3 info your previous post above, you should not be even thinking about #2... but that's just basic morals.
 
So you’re only planning on meeting one person, right?

Exactly!

Basically I got a note card in the mail and I'm pretty sure it said under 10 people is fine

BUT

I think it also said to avoid unecessary socializing

So...I would be good on the first rule, but I suppose the 2nd would be violated?

The theme is to "stay home" on Instagram.

Like if you CAN stay home they say stay home.

But it's already been so long. By now wouldn't it be safer to go out especially since it's just 1 person and not a group?

I've been quaranting, and she's been pretty good with it too overall. Maybe a friend or 2 but no big groups.
 
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What if everyone thought like you and just went out to see 1 person? What if you touch something that someone with the virus has touched - that supermarket trolley handle, petrol pump, door handle? What if you become the carrier and give it to that 1 person?

BTW it doesn't matter how many people - it's not something which is only transferred when a group get together, it's just a lot more likely to be spread through groups, it's just as easily spread one to one.

It's not as if we're being asked to go into war and get shot at - it's to just stay at home...
 
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I think the ability to go out is coming soon.

I think we've got this thing under control.

No freaking way! Current infected count is heading towards 1/4 million in the USA, and projected 100-200k dead (in the USA alone) before this is done. And that's the numbers the government is presenting, likely trying to put a positive spin on it! When was the last time you heard Trump be a realist or conservative on COVID19. Or anything? A month or two ago he was saying it would just go away with the warm weather and nothing to worry about!

I'll repost here what i posted elsewhere...

Given that plenty of people show mild or no symptoms from COVID19 the results in the USA really scare me at the moment. Due to asymptomatic carriers, lack of testing and lag in testing (see first two points) and lag in reporting… i’d hazard a guess there are at least a few million cases there right now - and still growing at an exponential rate.
 
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I'm not sure what message is being broadcast in the US, but the advice in the UK (is finally) very simple - STAY AT HOME.

Here the advice is the same.

Luckily in Western Australia we haven't had it so bad - the majority of our cases are literally off boats and isolated, very little community spread. But still. Work from home is the advice, do not go out unless necessary. We're trying to kill this before it gets out of control.

No groups of more than two, exceptions for families or essential work, where the job can't be done from home.

Over east, there are five figure fines for breaching this! 16k if i recall in Victoria!
 
Going to pay a visit to anyone under the current conditions - in other words, while an extremely contagious and highly infectious global pandemic is spreading across the planet - is reckless, irresponsible, selfish and self-indulgent, immature behaviour, and may well be downright dangerous.

I know people who cannot visit - or see - loved ones in hospital, while my sister-in-law was unable to attend the funeral of her father.

Personally, if the power lay with me, I'd give serious consideration to sectioning the OP, for as long as this pandemic lasts.

Official (and medical) advice - which hardly varies across the globe includes the following: Stay at home, do not socialise (at all, and that means at all), maintain a safe social and physical distance from other people (at all times) when out, and wash your hands frequently.

Even I wasn't this randy at his age or younger. Lord help the world.

And even if you were, the world does not owe you (or anyone) sex.

Anyway, cold showers, @Zenithal, cold showers, was what the Jesuits recommended for this condition, I seem to recall.
 
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Even I wasn't this randy at his age or younger. Lord help the world.
I bet you didn't wax your eyebrows either.


That's the real white elephant in this thread.

OP wanting to go see one of several women, is hardly surprising.

OP feeling the need to wax his own eyebrows kind of makes me wonder why he's bothering to go see women in the first place.
 
Exactly!

Basically I got a note card in the mail and I'm pretty sure it said under 10 people is fine

BUT

I think it also said to avoid unecessary socializing

So...I would be good on the first rule, but I suppose the 2nd would be violated?

The theme is to "stay home" on Instagram.

Like if you CAN stay home they say stay home.

But it's already been so long. By now wouldn't it be safer to go out especially since it's just 1 person and not a group?

I've been quaranting, and she's been pretty good with it too overall. Maybe a friend or 2 but no big groups.

You are genuinely a danger to society!!
 
This made me LOL

Great job hahaha :D
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I hope she has a mask!!! Or wahtever the proper protective equipment is. Best of luck to you both!!!
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I think the ability to go out is coming soon.

I think we've got this thing under control.

I already contacted my real estate agent this morning.

I'm planning on leasing a 2nd residence to have a place closer to my girl.

Things are starting to *feel* better especially after watching the White House press conference.

Hope is here! And the path forward to going out again is near :)

You (USA) haven’t even reached anywhere close to peak infection and daily death rates. Don’t believe the propaganda from the pathological liar orange terrorist and his bible bashing loony bed man. Believe only the scientists. And for the love of God(c) stay the *^%% indoors!!!!
 
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I think the ability to go out is coming soon.

I think we've got this thing under control.

I already contacted my real estate agent this morning.

I'm planning on leasing a 2nd residence to have a place closer to my girl.

Things are starting to *feel* better especially after watching the White House press conference.

Hope is here! And the path forward to going out again is near :)

Why not just respect the scientists and the people working the front lines against the spread of the virus and stay home. Vox ran a piece asking some epidemiologists their opinions on the idea of people thinking to socialize with "a closed group" of friends during the time of this pandemic. Worth the read.

 
Why not just respect the scientists and the people working the front lines against the spread of the virus and stay home. Vox ran a piece asking some epidemiologists their opinions on the idea of people thinking to socialize with "a closed group" of friends during the time of this pandemic. Worth the read.


Well things are rapidly changing. I'm a lot more concerned now, today, than when I was a few days ago. The news is NOT good it just seems to be getting worse.

My girl is also understanding too. She's in a position where if she loses me bc we don't meet, she'll meet, but if I'm waiting it out she'll wait it out too.

Right now I'm not ready to just rush out into world despite wanting to see her so bad.

My friends, I don't really care to hangout with haha. I can make myself a drink at home and drink alone and be fine. In fact, I was going through a hard time relationship-wise after my breakup and my friends went out and wanted me to go but I declined. This was right before corona became a thing.


EDIT: I haven't even had a chance read everyone's post. Just going to the pharmacy yesterday had me so nervous I was tired afterwards. I hope we're reaching peak crazy soon.
 
To put it in context... Lets say this thing goes on for 6 months (this is what scientists are openly suggesting here in Australia - and we're doing a lot better than you guys in the USA), if you were to go out a couple of times and catch/pass on the virus to the estimated 2-3 people that each infected person will infect without strict social distancing, within 2 weeks then...

6 months = 26 weeks
13 infection cycles
3 people infected by each person per cycle = 3^13 people in 6 months

= up to another 1,594,323 people infected if one individual who could avoid it today, doesn't avoid it (and those they infect don't either). Or to put it another way, assuming a 5% fatality rate, by staying inside you could potentially save 79,716 lives. And thats assuming this only runs for 6 months before it is under control.

If the infection rate is 2, then we're still talking

2^ 13 = 8192 people.


Exponential numbers get big fast, and this is why it is essential that EVERYBODY stays home. If you've still got a significant portion of the population running around, many of which may be carriers with no visible symptoms - the numbers still get big, real fast.


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also, up to date US projections:

Supposedly being a wall street trader you should understand statistical uncertainty and confidence intervals.
 
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