Poll: Which Power Mac?

CanadaRAM

macrumors G5
I think I'll start a poll, it will ask

"Would you click on a blind hyperlink in a post, without any knowledge of what was there? Or would you pass because you thought it too risky" Supplementary question "Would it affect your decision if the link were to a server in another country?"
 

Bear

macrumors G3
Jul 23, 2002
8,089
4
Sol III - Terra
CanadaRAM said:
I think I'll start a poll, it will ask

"Would you click on a blind hyperlink in a post, without any knowledge of what was there? Or would you pass because you thought it too risky" Supplementary question "Would it affect your decision if the link were to a server in another country?"
I would lean as too risky with the location being the kicker that said not a good idea at all.
 

Bear

macrumors G3
Jul 23, 2002
8,089
4
Sol III - Terra
clayjohanson said:
His poll question:

If you had a choice, what would you choose?
Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz
Power Mac G5 Single 2.5 GHz
Neither, my current machine isn't that far below either of them. And in truth a choice between those two would depend on what the machine was being used for. And of course a single 2. PowerMac doesn't exist right no, so the question is kinda moot.
 

eXan

macrumors 601
Original poster
Jan 10, 2005
4,714
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Russia
Sorry guys for not explaining that link above. :(
Do you afraid of something like virus? lol. You have a Mac :)

As for not existing G5 single 2.5, I was just curious what people would choose. I belive single proc running @ higher clock speed would be a choice for gamers, and dual @ lower clock speed would be suited more for pros.

And whats so bad if the server is in the other country? :confused:
 

mkrishnan

Moderator emeritus
Jan 9, 2004
29,777
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Grand Rapids, MI, USA
Maybe they don't have a fix to their browser to prevent domain spoofing yet. ;)

Hmmm...I didn't vote. Because I don't really care. I understand the question. But I hope to never buy another desktop computer again in my life, and for my computing needs, that is pretty feasible. :D

I guess I would choose a DP configuration in general, however, because I frequently multitask, and I probably use at least some apps that are properly threaded, so that I would get good benefit from two processors. But really I would have to see some benchmarks if that specific decision ever came in front of me.

Not that anyone is likely to start putting discrete multiple processors in Apple-sized notebooks anytime soon. I also don't intend to buy any computer that weighs more than 5 pounds again in my life. ;)

Now if I could persuade Apple to make a higher-end 12" or smaller notebook, with some more resolution than the PB/iBook 12", hmm....now that would be compelling. Especially if it could have a couple of gigs of RAM and run for about 10 hours on a battery. :p

EDIT: BTW, isn't the rule of thumb that, at best, a DP machine is likely to be roughly as fast as a single proc machine with a processor 1.6-1.8x as fast as the single processor speed on that machine? Like a 1.8 Dual would perform in the real world like a 2.8-3.2 GHz single, approximately, at best, and could be almost as slow as 1.8 single, in the other limiting case, if it were running just one application that did not support threading? So I guess it's a somewhat fair question. I'd still go with the computer that showed some evidence of being faster in actual benchmarks related to my kinda use....
 

CanadaRAM

macrumors G5
eXan said:
And whats so bad if the server is in the other country? :confused:
For better or worse, the .ru TLD has a reputation as a harbor of rogue websites. 10% of the porn, cheap software/watches, get rich quick and fraud spam that I get directs to servers within .ru .
Chinese hosts are of course the largest offenders (68%)
Report on countries hosting the most spam-payload websites:
http://www.commtouch.com//Site/News_Events/pr_content.asp?news_id=318&cat_id=1

Article on "OEM" software scam:
http://www.joewein.de/sw/spam-oem-software.htm

I started blocking all incoming email from .ru, .br, .my, .cn and several other country domains when my spam mail hit 1,000 per day. The sad truth is that it is not worth it to me to sort through 100,000 spam mails from your country in order to get one legitimate email from you. While it is true that much spam comes from .com and .ca as well, the spam:good ratio is lower: I get too much "good" mail from these domains to block them entirely, and I have to use different methods.

.kr is a special case: not much spam originates from there, but for some reason the South Korean educational system does a very poor job securing their servers, and Korean servers are hugely abused as open relays and open proxies for spam (>20% of worldwide spam passes through Korea).

So: Would I click on a link to a server if I didn't know what was there? No. And I would think twice more if the server were in China, Hong Kong, Eastern Europe or South America.

Edit: Apologies, I do know that Vladivostok is actually closer to me (4300 mi.) than it is to Moscow (5800 mi). Is Primorsky Krai considered Asian because of location or European because of nationality?
 

CanadaRAM

macrumors G5
I used to be a zealot reporting spam; but I'd spend 2 hours reporting to abuse desks and I would get only about a 1% postitive response from the ISPs the spam originated from.

Now I just build filters and block as much as possible, and I've brought down the # that make it through to my inbox to about 50 a day.
 

eXan

macrumors 601
Original poster
Jan 10, 2005
4,714
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Russia
CanadaRAM said:
Apologies, I do know that Vladivostok is actually closer to me (4300 mi.) than it is to Moscow (5800 mi). Is Primorsky Krai considered Asian because of location or European because of nationality?
Well I did't think about that, I guess Russia is European country because the capital is in Europe.
(our government thinks that Russia is just Moscow :mad: )
 

risc

macrumors 68030
Jul 23, 2004
2,756
0
Melbourne, Australia
clayjohanson said:
His poll question:

If you had a choice, what would you choose?
Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz
Power Mac G5 Single 2.5 GHz
What's the point of this comparing non-existent hardware with a current model?
 

BillHarrison

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2003
332
0
risc said:
What's the point of this comparing non-existent hardware with a current model?
Not to mention, the qualifier of "if you had a choice" Well duh, if I had a choice, of course the faster one.

Is there more to the question. LOL
 

mcadam

macrumors 6502a
Apr 3, 2004
593
0
københavn
BillHarrison said:
Not to mention, the qualifier of "if you had a choice" Well duh, if I had a choice, of course the faster one.

Is there more to the question. LOL
So, here's a stupid question to you, cause I really don't know - wich one is the faster computer: the G5 DUAL 1.8 Ghz or
the G5 SINGLE 2.5 Ghz

?

A
 

Mitthrawnuruodo

Moderator emeritus
Mar 10, 2004
13,807
179
Bergen, Norway
BillHarrison said:
Not to mention, the qualifier of "if you had a choice" Well duh, if I had a choice, of course the faster one.

Is there more to the question. LOL
The point is, as stated early in the thread, that you cannot decide which is fastest without considering what you gonna use it for... :rolleyes:

Edit: Just as mcadam also said... I gotta start refreshing threads before posting... ;)
 

wrldwzrd89

macrumors G5
Jun 6, 2003
12,107
75
Solon, OH
If I was going to buy a new PowerMac today, and money was not an issue, I'd choose the Dual 2.5 GHz machine. However, neither of those things are true - I don't plan to buy another Mac until February 2007, and I haven't yet saved enough money to purchase the PowerMac of my dreams. Don't worry - I've taken reality checks into account, like the fact that dual displays won't fit on my current desk as long as the other things on it are still there. Dual 30 inch displays probably won't fit even if I clear the desk of everything.
 

wdlove

macrumors P6
Oct 20, 2002
16,568
0
wrldwzrd89 said:
If I was going to buy a new PowerMac today, and money was not an issue, I'd choose the Dual 2.5 GHz machine. However, neither of those things are true - I don't plan to buy another Mac until February 2007, and I haven't yet saved enough money to purchase the PowerMac of my dreams. Don't worry - I've taken reality checks into account, like the fact that dual displays won't fit on my current desk as long as the other things on it are still there. Dual 30 inch displays probably won't fit even if I clear the desk of everything.
I applaud the fact that you have set a goal for yourself and are saving to reach that goal. Having almost two years to wait can't be all that easy. Since that will be after MacWorld 2007, you should have the latest technology available. ;)
 

Lacero

macrumors 604
Jan 20, 2005
6,639
2
The dual 1.8GHz would be a better buy over a single 2.5Ghz machine. Simply you can do more work efficiently on a dual. If you are encoding mp3, compressing some videos, burning DVD and surfing the net at the same time, it would be faster on the dual since OSX can divide tasks among the programs, even if the programs themselves are not multithreaded.
 

Sun Baked

macrumors G5
May 19, 2002
14,874
57
clayjohanson said:
His poll question:

If you had a choice, what would you choose?
Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz
Power Mac G5 Single 2.5 GHz


Is this the iMac-based PowerMac G5 vs. a Rev. A or B PowerMac.

If it's a iMac-Based PowerMac G5 @ 2.5GHz vs. a Rev. A DP PowerMac 1.8 --then you need to start asking about memory and the apps.

A 1/3 FSB with half the memory and a higher clock speed will have a handicap compared to a 1/2 FSB and double the memory...

Then there is the question of video card, and whether or not one of the machines is running a RAID.

Or is it a FrankenMac running the newest 2.5GHz module, and then you have to ask about 4 DIMMs or 8.

Way too many PowerMac G5s... :rolleyes:
 

wrldwzrd89

macrumors G5
Jun 6, 2003
12,107
75
Solon, OH
Sun Baked said:


Is this the iMac-based PowerMac G5 vs. a Rev. A or B PowerMac.

If it's a iMac-Based PowerMac G5 @ 2.5GHz vs. a Rev. A DP PowerMac 1.8 --then you need to start asking about memory and the apps.

A 1/3 FSB with half the memory and a higher clock speed will have a handicap compared to a 1/2 FSB and double the memory...

Then there is the question of video card, and whether or not one of the machines is running a RAID.

Or is it a FrankenMac running the newest 2.5GHz module, and then you have to ask about 4 DIMMs or 8.

Way too many PowerMac G5s... :rolleyes:
I completely failed to notice that the 2.5 GHz option was single processor. I should have voted for the dual-CPU machine, but there's nothing I can do about that now.
 
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