No, Apple is re-releasing iOS 3 and that’s ace at RAM management!
2GB would be like 400GB, no more problems...
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Possible Benchmark for A12 Processor From 2018 iPhone Surfaces Featuring 10% Faster Speeds, 4GB RAM
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No, Apple is re-releasing iOS 3 and that’s ace at RAM management!
2GB would be like 400GB, no more problems...
It's getting to the point that I wouldn't mind seeing a Retina MacBook with an A-series chip. Just as long as the MacBook Pro and desktop Macs remain on Intel.
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I opted to simply wait for the iPhone X Plus. Fine with not upgrading to the latest iPhone every single year.
10% of 10,000 is 1,000
20% of 2,000 is 400
In absolute terms this is still 2.5 times the jump of the A7 to A8...
They’ve done it before with the A8 I believe which was only a marginal increase from the A7. I’m all for improvements to the processors but honestly who cares when we barely even notice it? An iPhone 8 performs no quicker than an iPhone 7 and the A11 improved on performance quite a bit. It’s iOS that needs improving and speeding up at this point which hopefully will be the case come September.
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We all want better efficiency because increased CPU power is no more. If you can't make the horse work harder, you better make the work less demanding.
These benchmarks rarely equate to real world performance when actually using the phone. The A chips throttle down so quickly once a full load is placed on them (video rendering) due to heat that the performance claims almost amount to fraud.
Using lab equipment you can measure a difference but in normal usage over a day you can't tell.
iPhone's are still the fastest phone's out there so I am not worried about an only 10% jump. Increased RAM is appreciated, but not something I have felt either. Promotion, any other screen enhancements, Face ID 2, and a better camera is why I'll upgrade this year.
Sounds like the era of yearly 50% to 2x CPU speed improvements is sadly coming to an end.
To those saying it doesn’t matter in a phone, sure, but if Apple starts to use A chips in MacBooks soon, it matters more there.
To those saying it doesn’t matter in a phone, sure, but if Apple starts to use A chips in MacBooks soon, it matters more there.
The lowest speed bump was from the original iPhone to iPhone 3G, which had a 0% increase
This has happened prior in A7 to A8 transition.
Compare Geekbench CPU Single/Multi Core scores for the iPhone 5s (1265/2143) vs iPhone 6 (1371/2330)
Then look at the marked contrast in Metal score 570 vs 4194.
https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/28
https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/33
A new benchmark taken from a 2018 iPhone may give us some insight into just how much faster the new A12 is than the A11 in the iPhone X
The answer is "Not much" - My Geekbench result on my 8+ with A11 is 4227 Single-core and 10401 multi-core.
Nothing like the jump from A10 to A11 which blew the competition out of the water by a mile!
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Have to think the CPU doesn't need to be any faster. What's new and needs more horse? VR.
Apple employs a tick tock release for their A series processors. A7 -> A8 is only 25% faster while A8->A9 is about 2x faster.
A9 -> A10 is also about efficiency (quad core)
A10-A11 is the exception, they also focused on efficiency cores (now 6-cores) as well as bigger speed improvements. This is because of the X and the gesture based controls as well as animoji.
New design? -> marginal processor improvement.
Old design? -> faster processors and better cameras as well as under the hood improvements.
Should be very obvious by now. X was just a sneak peek for 2018 lineup.
A9 -> A10 is also about efficiency (quad core)
A10-A11 is the exception, they also focused on efficiency cores (now 6-cores) as well as bigger speed improvements. This is because of the X and the gesture based controls as well as animoji.
New design? -> marginal processor improvement.
Old design? -> faster processors and better cameras as well as under the hood improvements.
Should be very obvious by now. X was just a sneak peek for 2018 lineup.
It's getting to the point that I wouldn't mind seeing a Retina MacBook with an A-series chip. Just as long as the MacBook Pro and desktop Macs remain on Intel.
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I opted to simply wait for the iPhone X Plus. Fine with not upgrading to the latest iPhone every single year.
me too, but I had no choice I had a 6 Plus that was damn slow even with a new battery and swtiched carriers so I needed more frequency bands available in the newer iPhones
I remember that my Altair 8800 computer had so much memory it made my fingers hurt while toggling in so much binary computer code and data on the front panel switches. Who knew that we would ever need more than 4K bytes of RAM.
Since then their memory optimisation approach seems to have been unceremoniously thrown out on the kerb though - at the time iOS was still (just) able to run smoother with 1gb than Android was with 2-3. Unfortunately as they have advanced through versions this has become less and less the case, to the point I don’t think iOS 11 has any real advantage over android (sans that it freezes multitasking apps). Maybe it will be a bit better with iOS 12 but I think those days are gone for good if they are moving towards laptop amounts of RAM now...
The 6 Plus was one I almost got, but ultimately held off as well. Even in 2014 I and others on this forum could tell the 1 GB RAM (same amount as both the 5 and 5s had going back to 2012) would become a performance issue. So I decided to make do with the 5s for another year, and upgraded to the 6s Plus in 2015 which turned out to be a very solid release.
My particular 6s Plus has cracks in the front glass and battery life is not quite what it used to be, so I'll be happy to upgrade this year. But otherwise it still works fine, though it's not running the latest version of iOS (still on iOS 10).
10% CPU improvements and 40% GPU improvements. I think in context, this is perfectly fine. The massive GPU improvements are important as apple is beginning to flex its custom GPU. Furthermore, Apple may be going for serious battery life improvements, and the extra RAM is a huge plus...
It may seem underwhelming, but I think it's because CPU's are fast enough now that it's less of a concern. GPU should be a bigger focus considering 3D, AR, VR, and games on iOS... And of course, more battery life is ALWAYS good.
It seems these improvements every year are just a complete waste of time, because every year Apple makes it run slower with iOS updates...
So the new iPhone will have the same amount of RAM as the current baseline Mac mini?
RAM uses battery because it needs to be refreshed every few ms. More ram = more power usage = less battery life. I suppose iOS could disable unused RAM on the fly, but I'm not sure they've optimized to that level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_refres
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Apparently the new OS is substantially spiffier, performance wise, than the last couple. We'll see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_refres
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Apparently the new OS is substantially spiffier, performance wise, than the last couple. We'll see.