Possible Flaw in iMessage?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Greg M, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. Greg M macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    An iPhone sees that the text is going to another iPhone and automatically sends it as an iMessage instead of a text. What happens if the receiving iPhone has reached it's data limit for the month?

    Will that iMessage push them into overage charges?
    This would be bad especially if the receiving iPhone has unlimited texting and only limited data.

    Will that iMessage just vanish?
    Some have limits on data that when reached the data just shuts off instead of going into an overage charge.

    If this is the case, is there a way to shut off iMessage?
    I can see where some people with an iPhone wouldn't want to receive iMessages. One would be someone who does a lot of texting to other iPhone users and has unlimited texting with very limited data available to them.
  2. FrankieG889D macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2009
  3. unlimitedx macrumors 6502a

    Jun 15, 2010
    considering a text message is only several kb each, you'd need to be right on that limit for texting to cause the overage.
  4. Greg M thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    So when iMessage looks for a compatible device it's actually looking for a device that has iMessage turned on?

    If so then that's great. I couldn't believe if what I was asking was true that it would has slipped by those smart people in Apple's design department.
  5. profets macrumors 601

    Mar 18, 2009
    I've run into a few hiccups with it... One that keeps happening is when I send a message to a number that was once activated with iMessage.. My iPhone attempts to send it as iMessage but the recipient is no longer using iMessage so it sits at my end and never gets delivered. I always manually resend as text message.
  6. jshbckr macrumors 6502

    Apr 20, 2007
    Minneapolis, MN
    I think your concern is kind of a wash... if someone is THAT close to going over their data, they'd probably shut off the cell data portion of their phone, which means the iMessage wouldn't be delivered. Then the sender would see a "Failure to Send" message and could resend as a text.

    And like others said, iMessages would be very small.
  7. PhoneI macrumors 68000

    Mar 7, 2008
    delete the iMessage thread and create a new one.
  8. EmbraceTheOne macrumors 6502a

    Aug 26, 2011
    Good thing I have 2GB data, And Unlimited texting.
  9. AFPoster macrumors 68000

    Jul 14, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    +1 -- you won't have to worry if you have this.
  10. FrankieG889D macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2009

    Yes, when you select the contact you want to text, I'm pretty sure that the loading symbol pops up to the right of the name for a half a second. (The contact is green then turns to blue when it finds out it's an iOS device with iMessage)
  11. gloss macrumors 601


    May 9, 2006
    I don't think it'll be an issue. These things are well under a 1KB per. Texts clock in at only a couple of hundred bytes.
  12. kevintech macrumors 6502

    Oct 5, 2010
    What if you have unlimited data? Will it be an issue?
  13. steve dave, Oct 11, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2011

    steve dave macrumors 6502a

    Mar 29, 2010
    I am pretty sure this would be the situation in which you would have to worry about this scenario.
  14. FSMBP macrumors 68020


    Jan 22, 2009
    A text is not even a couple KB. A couple months ago, I calculated that if you sent 20,000 iMessages (around 160 characters in length), it wouldn't be more than 15MB. And that is being conservative considering often times people send messages like "ok" or "yes".

    So, iMessage could push you in to overage - but it's unlikely that was the sole reason.
  15. fjrabon macrumors regular

    Oct 22, 2010
    if you've used so much that your speed is being throttled, it might take 4 seconds instead of 2. Which would totally suck.
  16. brholton macrumors member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Actually I have iMessage and have a few friends who had iOS 5 and down graded back to iOS4, it tries to send it to them as an iMessage and when it doesn't go through it automatically changes it to a text message and sends it.
  17. fjrabon macrumors regular

    Oct 22, 2010
    well, technically you can send unlimitedly large messages and pictures via iMessage, right? For all the ones that are taking place of texts, true. However, you can, I believe, actually send very large pictures through iMessage as well. And, in theory, you can send the entire text of war and peace as one iMessage.

    But yeah, I get what you're saying.
  18. FSMBP macrumors 68020


    Jan 22, 2009
    Let's not forget that you can use it on Wifi.
  19. parseckadet macrumors 6502a


    Dec 13, 2010
    Denver, CO
    And other iOS devices such as the iPad and iPod Touch. In this case, if you sent a message to someone who turned off iMessage on their phone, but not these other devices, the message will still be sent as an iMessage. They just won't get it on their phone. That can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it.
  20. jkozlow3 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2008
    Has anyone tested iMessage with Verizon yet while on a call and not on wifi?

    For example, you're on a Verizon iPhone and on a phone call. You've previously used iMessage, so the the sender's iOS 5 iPhone attempts to send the message as an iMessage. You cannot receive data while on a call, so does the system automatically recognize this when the message doesn't go through and send the message as a text instead? If so, how long is the delay before this happens?

    If not, I will be turning iMessage off providing that's an option. I think someone said it could be disabled, right?
  21. MindlessJD macrumors member


    Apr 19, 2006
    Hampshire, UK
    That is only if you send the iMessage to their email address. If you send it to their mobile number, your iPhone will see iMessage is not active for that number and send a text instead.
  22. outphase macrumors 65816

    Jun 13, 2009
    Parts Unknown
    After about 3 failed iMessage attempts, it'll default you back to SMS. At least it did when I tried to send 3 different iMessages to a friend that downgraded.

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