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Too bad Billy Mays is dead. He would have been perfect to voice over that video. :rolleyes:
 
That thing is hideous. Reminds me of a PC with ports and buttons all over the place.
 
C'mon. The CE industry can't even develop a decent iPod competitor -- 9 years after it came to market. Don't expect an iPad alternative any time soon. Like the iPad or hate it, Apple knows how to go into a room and suck up all the oxygen.
 
C'mon. The CE industry can't even develop a decent iPod competitor -- 9 years after it came to market. Don't expect an iPad alternative any time soon. Like the iPad or hate it, Apple knows how to go into a room and suck up all the oxygen.

Again this was announced in December and shown at CES in January so it predates the iPad and can't be called an imitator or iPad killer since it came before the iPad.
 
One of those things that looks cool at first but once you start thinking about it you realize it is a Frankenstein monster.

It weighs double what an Ipad does, more than double that of a Kindle DX and is big/heavy/awkward to use as a reader.

Heck ditch the e-ink side save massive amount of weight and costs, and sell a 10" tablet for under $300 instead. You don't need e-ink to read.

I will be interested to see how this works out for early adopters.
 
One of those things that looks cool at first but once you start thinking about it you realize it is a Frankenstein monster.

It weighs double what an Ipad does, more than double that of a Kindle DX and is big/heavy/awkward to use as a reader.

Heck ditch the e-ink side save massive amount of weight and costs, and sell a 10" tablet for under $300 instead. You don't need e-ink to read.

I will be interested to see how this works out for early adopters.
I think had the iPad not be introduced the Entourage may have had a chance, but now it is all but DOA.
 
One of those things that looks cool at first but once you start thinking about it you realize it is a Frankenstein monster.

It weighs double what an Ipad does, more than double that of a Kindle DX and is big/heavy/awkward to use as a reader.

Heck ditch the e-ink side save massive amount of weight and costs, and sell a 10" tablet for under $300 instead. You don't need e-ink to read.

I will be interested to see how this works out for early adopters.

LOL - and you've used one - so you know whether or not it's big/heavy/awkward. Or is this a FOA (fact out of the air) ?

It's ok to love the iPad and still find other technologies cool or interesting. It doesn't mean you love the iPad any less LOL
 
Again this was announced in December and shown at CES in January so it predates the iPad and can't be called an imitator or iPad killer since it came before the iPad.

That's really hair splitting. It's irrelevant when it was announced - pre or post. It may not officially be an iPad imitator but it still won't be able to compete with Apple or the iPad. It looks cool, and I like the form factor, but reality is Apple owns GUI and device ergonomics. However cool a companies orchestrated video looks the actual product inevitably is a piece of clunk.
 
Again this was announced in December and shown at CES in January so it predates the iPad and can't be called an imitator or iPad killer since it came before the iPad.

Because we all know how long companies have been developing the various tablets?

As to the actual device, typical and what most companies will try to pass as a tablet. Netbook Atom CPU w/Windows 7. Slow, hard to read, poor performing laptop. This just has the added bonus of being twice the price of a netbook. Their will be dozens of these show up by the end of 2010, just as the netbook market exploded into anyone with a 10" plastic cast and $5 dollar LCD panel, toss in the status quo (1.6 atom/1gig/160hdd) and call it the latest and greatest. I think right now the only one with a chance is if Dell actually creates an 10" or 12" Android based tablet as they said the Mini 5 was it's entry into it's line of tablets.
 
LOL - and you've used one - so you know whether or not it's big/heavy/awkward. Or is this a FOA (fact out of the air) ?

It's ok to love the iPad and still find other technologies cool or interesting. It doesn't mean you love the iPad any less LOL

I have seen a number of people complain about the iPad being too heavy, this is double that. I also watched the video. It is bulky and awkward to use as a reader.

I also offered a constructive suggestion. Ditch e-ink half and my criticisms disappear. Extra weight: gone, extra bulk: gone. New ultra competetive pricing gained.
 
I have seen a number of people complain about the iPad being too heavy, this is double that. I also watched the video. It is bulky and awkward to use as a reader.

I also offered a constructive suggestion. Ditch e-ink half and my criticisms disappear. Extra weight: gone, extra bulk: gone. New ultra competetive pricing gained.

Ok - so it's fine to criticize other manufacturers for where they might have gone off base and offer suggestions on how to make their product better and have more value EXCEPT for Apple and the iPad? I just want to be clear of what the "rules" are...
 
LOL - and you've used one - so you know whether or not it's big/heavy/awkward. Or is this a FOA (fact out of the air) ?

It's ok to love the iPad and still find other technologies cool or interesting. It doesn't mean you love the iPad any less LOL

They quote a weight of 3 lbs on their website so saying that it is double the weight of the iPad is just a plain fact. Whether or not this makes it awkward to use is unknown at this point but we can make a decent educated predication. I find 3 lbs textbooks pretty awkward and heavy to handle so it seems likely that this will be the same.

I actually find the idea of combining an e-ink and LCD screen quite interesting, but the weight is a big problem for me.
 
Ok - so it's fine to criticize other manufacturers for where they might have gone off base and offer suggestions on how to make their product better and have more value EXCEPT for Apple and the iPad? I just want to be clear of what the "rules" are...

It is fair to criticize Apple/Entourage or any other companies decisions, and it is just as fair to disagree with those opinions.

Internet forums are really just a bunch of people with too much time on their hands shouting their opinions.

In the end we all give(or abstain) the opinion that really counts by putting our money where our mouth is.

That is where you can get the Entourage you defend and I can get an iPad I was defending and everyone is happy. :D
 
Ok - so it's fine to criticize other manufacturers for where they might have gone off base and offer suggestions on how to make their product better and have more value EXCEPT for Apple and the iPad? I just want to be clear of what the "rules" are...

Where do you get the idea that there are "rules" that people can't criticize Apple/iPad? Plenty of people are doing that around here. Now it's true that plenty of people are also arguing against that criticism, but just because people don't agree with the criticism, doesn't mean they think you shouldn't voice your criticism. Well, at least the reasonable ones wouldn't. But there's been unreasonable people on both sides of the debate.
 
Where do you get the idea that there are "rules" that people can't criticize Apple/iPad? Plenty of people are doing that around here. Now it's true that plenty of people are also arguing against that criticism, but just because people don't agree with the criticism, doesn't mean they think you shouldn't voice your criticism. Well, at least the reasonable ones wouldn't. But there's been unreasonable people on both sides of the debate.

I think your sarcasm meter needs a reboot :)
 
I also offered a constructive suggestion. Ditch e-ink half and my criticisms disappear. Extra weight: gone, extra bulk: gone. New ultra competetive pricing gained.

Out of curiosity, do you own a Kindle or similar ereader? Because I assure you, it is much easier on the eyes reading on one than on an LED screen. How well the iPad emulates E-ink will be a factor for me in a decision to buy or not.
 
Out of curiosity, do you own a Kindle or similar ereader? Because I assure you, it is much easier on the eyes reading on one than on an LED screen. How well the iPad emulates E-ink will be a factor for me in a decision to buy or not.

I don't have any issue reading on LCD (unless outdoors). That is a manufactured issue that doesn't apply to most people. You have to manufacture something like this when your display is monochrome and has a 1 second refresh.

I have spent 15 years working 10 hour days on a CRT, that doesn't cause me any issue, neither do my LCDs at home. As long a brightness and refresh is appropriate most people have no issues with most display types.
 
I don't have any issue reading on LCD (unless outdoors). That is a manufactured issue that doesn't apply to most people. You have to manufacture something like this when your display is monochrome and has a 1 second refresh.

I have spent 15 years working 10 hour days on a CRT, that doesn't cause me any issue, neither do my LCDs at home. As long a brightness and refresh is appropriate most people have no issues with most display types.

Goody for you. I have spent the last 20+ years working on a CRT and I prefer reading on a Kindle than a LCD screen when it comes to text.

Most people? Again - fact out of the air. Why do people insist on making their opinions and their experiences into sweeping generalization about everyone else. Can't you just say YOUR experience is XYZ?
 
I don't have any issue reading on LCD (unless outdoors). That is a manufactured issue that doesn't apply to most people. You have to manufacture something like this when your display is monochrome and has a 1 second refresh.

I have spent 15 years working 10 hour days on a CRT, that doesn't cause me any issue, neither do my LCDs at home. As long a brightness and refresh is appropriate most people have no issues with most display types.

If an e-ink user says they like it better for reading, do we really need others to come along and tell us we don't really like it better? Wouldn't we know?
 
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