Possible major blow for Huawei Smartphones

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    Kinda saw this coming a while ago. This will kill off Huawei's phone sales if they don't have access to Playstore apps and updates.
     
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    I think Huawei has sold a few hundred million smartphones now. Who will hold responsibility and accountability for all those people who paid for a smartphone with a Google operating system in it of which Google now decided to pull the plug on..? At the least that they would need to do is be required to support all previously sold smartphones with OS support. They should not be allowed to just completely pull the plug and abandon all those who bought their products before.
     
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    Great points!
     
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    So if a security flaw is detected from today onwards on a Huawei phone, everything on your phone could be at risk because it can't be updated? Can Huawei not release any kind of update or is it soley down to Google (who obviously won't help now)?
     
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    Theoretically Huawei could blame Google for it as Google sold them the OS and Huawei along with the end user (consumer) paid for it.
     
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    I"m not sure that is correct...they license or pay a royalty to Google. Not the same thing as a sale as you said.
    Then since Android is basically open source...the OS will continue to work as the license or royalty agreement states.
    What would no longer work is the Playstore and any further security/app updates or OS updates going forward.
    Gmail would not work...I'm not sure about maps or Google Assistant though
     
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    Moderator Note:

    That thread has now been moved to the PRSI forum as the discussion had taken a political direction. We will keep this one open for the non-political discussion.
     
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    Hopefully this one doesn't go that way to.
     
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    Please report any posts that veer into politics and we will deal with them.
     
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    Stuff like this is why people like Apple, and to an extent the Google Pixel line now. 1st party support.
     
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    And Google couldn’t care less. Google is a US company, and they merely follows the law. Heck, the fact Google immediately took action without much fuss showed that they actually couldn’t care less. This is more like a wake up call to all Android OEMs that their lifeline can be pulled by Google just like that, albeit too late now as there’s no room for a third smartphone platform.

    Of course, the victims in the end are consumers, especially those outside China and US, and they’re not involved directly with the political fights, but gets wounded and salt on top as collateral damage.
     
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    Yep, part of the reason I have ordered my iPhone X S Max. I am sick of companies depending on Google.

    I will always keep Huawei around though, and I hope they simply launch their own OS and forget Google’s Android. Such an innovative company being let down by stupid outside factors.
     
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    This is what I keep saying, it's a major wake up call for other Android OEMs.

    I wonder if Huawei will partner with another OEM on an OS based on AOSP.
     
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    They will run into the same problem Samsung had with Tizen. There are no apps unless they go through the Playstore
     
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    Their hardware is impressive to say the least. But yeah anytime you're reliant on a third party for software, this is what can happen.

    Got to credit Apple, and now Google as well. It's not easy to build first party software, integration, app stores, after sales support, etc. Or else everyone would be able to succeed on their own.
     
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    Add to that BlackBerry 10, which was an excellent OS with no apps.
     
  19. stylinexpat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Give them time and they will succeed. Short term they will have problems which will not be good for them but this is another lesson for them not to be reliant upon others ;)
     
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    It still won’t help them sell outside of China to people who want to use Google and other US made apps.
     
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    I just got an update from Google from Google's Play Store for Google Docs so updates are still working as of now for Huawei's P30 Pro
    Screenshot_20190520_180408_com.android.vending.jpg
     
  22. pika2000 macrumors 601

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    Well, the US gave 90 days grace period, so everything from now on until 90 days forward are not reflecting the new policy.
    Secondly, google said that existing handsets will continue to work, along with app updates. The problem will be future handsets and future version of Android for current handsets as there will be no future licenses given.

    In short, it’s like the old days where any Android handset won’t get updates. Existing Huawei devices will still work and app updates won’t be affected, but no guarantee to get Android Q forward. Plus Huawei can no longer include the Play store in their future Android handsets (if they stick with Android). This is also problematic for Huawei’s laptops as Microsoft will be under the same restrictions.
     
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    I wonder what happens to unsold phones that are sitting in carrier stores? Do they have to be recalled or can they still sell them with android os and the play store preinstalled.
     
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    US lifts Huawei ban, but only temporarily and in a limited scope
    https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-temporary-general-license-988407/
     

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