Yea, you can find them 40 bucks off in a lot of places. They will be 1.1.2, but even if you pay 20 to upgrade, its still 20 cheaper. I just got one from bestbuy yesterday, but I had to have them do a price match of their website "in-cart" price of 360 for the 16GB (they wanted 380 in the store). Hell, if you are lucky, you may even get them to price match a new one with 1.1.3 with the old 1.1.2 discounted prices if you can find a store that has them in stock already.