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A Mac OSX virus, wow I was wondering when that was going to happen. And you're right about Toast, but I've noticed most people don't use more than Disc Burner/iTunes is capable of, nonetheless I digress.
Also, I forgot about Poison, frankly I've given up on p2p since iTMS came out.
So, I'm going to shut up now.
 
you guys have answered basically everything i can think of, thanks a lot. since some of you said you were recent switchers yourselves could you maybe post problems and/or things you had trouble getting used to in mac os x?

do the dvds burned with the superdrive work in playstation 2 dvd players? i'll likely be taking a ps2 to college with me, and i'd rather not bring another dvd player as well.

anyways if people could post some things that former windows users have trouble adjusting to in mac os x.
 
Originally posted by ll cool jh
you guys have answered basically everything i can think of, thanks a lot. since some of you said you were recent switchers yourselves could you maybe post problems and/or things you had trouble getting used to in mac os x?

do the dvds burned with the superdrive work in playstation 2 dvd players? i'll likely be taking a ps2 to college with me, and i'd rather not bring another dvd player as well.

anyways if people could post some things that former windows users have trouble adjusting to in mac os x.

While I have not tried it, DVD’s burned with a superdrive should work OK with PS2. However if you are going for a PowerBook then you could just watch them on that. I always found the PS2 made a lot of noise playing movie disks.

As far as issues in switching goes, my main issue was being able to use my existing PC peripherals. My Epson photo printer was fine and worked with OS X drivers. At the time I switched it was just when Apple released Jaguar, and I think they must have changed the driver model, as I had two types of compact flash card readers but the drivers did not initially work in OS 10.2. I had to link the camera directly to the Mac to download the pictures. After a few weeks one of the companies released updated drivers, and I was fine. When Panther was released I did not have any driver problems. I also had driver problems with a cheap USB ADSL modem, but I ditched that fairly quickly and got myself a Netgear Ethernet ADSL modem / router instead. This may not be relevant to if you have no PC hardware that you want to use on the mac, but if you have, check for driver support.

I did not really have any problems getting use to OS X, except I found the filing system a little confusing at first, until I got used to it. Panther's finder is much better IMO than Jaguar's.

Post back when you get your Mac and tell us how you got on. Meanwhile keep asking those questions!
 
Originally posted by ll cool jh
since some of you said you were recent switchers yourselves could you maybe post problems and/or things you had trouble getting used to in mac os x?

-Getting used to one button mice. I fished out my old Microsoft 2-button mouse and plugged it in to use, but the iBook's trackpad is only 1-button.

-Understanding that clicking the red 'X' in the corner only closes a window, not quit a program.

-all of the menus are shifted one space to the right of where it would be on windows. for example, the File menu is where the Edit menu should be. This is because of a 'program menu (?)'. i'll include a screenshot.
 
Disks don't have drive letters like they do in Windows. There is no "C:" drive or "A:" drive for example. When you connect an external hard drive or insert a CD MacOS will automatically "mount" it so that you can access it. It will show up as an icon on your desktop. If you drag the icon to the trash it will "unmount" it and it will no longer be accessable even though it's still plugged in (or in the case of a CD it will actually eject it).
 
Originally posted by ll cool jh
do the dvds burned with the superdrive work in playstation 2 dvd players? i'll likely be taking a ps2 to college with me, and i'd rather not bring another dvd player as well.

Yep, I recently burnt a movie to a DVD-R with my PowerBook and the PS2 played it without any problems.
 
Hardest thing about switching was trying to treat my iBook like a Windoze machine. I fought with my new Mac for almost an entire day before I gave up, and said to myself:

"Self, this isn't a Windoze machine. If I knew nothing about computers, and wanted to do 'x,' how would I do it in the most common sense way?"

Lo, and behold! It worked! It was difficult to think rationally after 10 years of Windows - but I've figured it out now. The longer I have my Powerbook (I upgraded almost immediately), the more I hate fooling around with our Dull desktop.

Welcome to the Mac world. It's great.

Try www. macconnection.com , www.smalldog.com , www.macmall.com for your new Mac. The prices don't move much, but they've got the best "add-on incentives," it seems. Go for the RAM. Lots and lots of RAM. I've got 768MB, and I'll go for a gig as soon as I can pry the money away...
 
The big stores don't sell mac software. I've been looking for The Sims for the mac for a while - Best Buy, Wal Mart, K Mart, Meijer, Office Max, Staples, and Mediaplay do not sell it. I had to buy it online....

But besides the sims, pretty much everything you need is in the powerbooks. Glad you like it!
 
Doing things the hard way

I know what you mean about trying to do things the hard way. I switched in june 2001 with a 500mhz iBook. Loved it, my son uses it know. I just bought a 12" Powerbook last night, I am tired this morning, it really rocks. I also had a 800mhz iBook too. They all were awesome. My Mom is buying my 800Mhz iBook, she is a hardcore windows user, maybe I can get here to switch too.

Burning CD's I looked forever for the application to burn a data cd, when all I have to do is pop in a blank cd, put what I want on it, and then select burn from finder, too easy.

Networking- Just plug it in, it will probably work.

Uninstalling software- this was my biggest concern, but 99% of the time, just drag it to the trash.

Music CD's, in windows, you had to have a program to rip a cd, then another to listen to the collection, then another to burn to a cd to listen to. Apple iTunes does it all and more.


But it is hard moving from windows, because you want to overcomplicate it. Because that is what you have always done. If there is something you have a problem with, these forums are great for prolem solving, and learning good stuff.
 
www.versiontracker.com is a great site to find any software you would need.

there is a utility called sidetrack that is currently in beta, that you can use the trackpad to its fullest. for me I have the mouse button as left-click, and tapping the trackpad as right-click. http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/

for playing videos that QuickTime or WMP can't do, either vlc http://www.videolan.org/ or mplayer for os x http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/ will play the files. i would also install DivX 5.1 http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/ just in case.

where safari will not work (.swf for one) IE works fine. both are still included, although Microsoft has stopped developing IE for the Mac. mozilla is an option, as is a few others. honestly, i haven't bothered with anything besides safari and IE for some time (IE for www.chase.com forms).

as for menu and other animations, i turn those down/off to maximize battery life.

networking is far simpler, as previous poster said; plug it in (or connect over wireless) and it usually just works. this past week i had no problems connecting with my mom's wireless network (linksys based), my home network (also linksys), my neighbors wireless (airport), TMobiles hotspot, and the centrino spot available at Dallas/Ft Worth airport terminal, as well as plugging into the network here at work. i can browse a linux file server (at home) just fine, although i have not tried browsing the windows file servers here at work (supposedly getting better/faster).

being that OS X is based on BSD (UNIX type operating system) there are a lot of open source projects for os x. it is similar to the shareware community of old for windows (especially back in the win95b and win98 days). most open source apps are free, but not all (open source does not equal free of cost, but free to look at the source, and have the ability to tinker if you want/need). this was the major reason for me to switch. i could not live with os x without the terminal.app capabilities. it sounds as if you are a knowledgable windows user, so the access to the command line might not be important, but i suggest that you learn it if you buy a mac. some things are just faster that way (file transfers/uploads, using ssh, etc).

whatever you choose, good luck.

and go for the 15" not the 17"
 
Originally posted by plasticparadox
There is at least one virus for Mac OS X.

Actually, there isn't. If you read the piece quoted at this link, you'll notice the reference to the "Lite Side staff" near the end, and the observation that perhaps this should have been posted under humor.

Reason: the Swichback virus was made up for Low End Mac's humor column, the Lite Side, and is credited to the same pseudonym that Low End Mac publisher Dan Knight uses for their Rumor Mill parody column. Read the original article here. It was a joke...there's no such thing as the Switchback virus!

I found that qutting applications vs. closing windows, the way drives are handled (mounting vs. drive letters), and software installations were the biggest differences between OS X and Windows. As the other posters above have noted, I kept wanting to do things the complicated, Windows way; occasionally I still do, but overall there was almost NO learning curve to OS X. System Preferences are sooo much simpler than Windows Control Panels that there's almost no comparison. And Preferences for almost any application are always under the Application Menu (shown in the earlier Safari screenshot), so configuration is easy.

The whole "mounting" thing works like this: Under Windows, you have drive letters as placeholders for each physical drive, plus any logical drives on your internal hard disk or network, whether there's anything there or not. On the Mac side, the system will see all the hardware, but a drive will only show up if there's actual media there to be accessed. To give you an idea, longtime Mac users consider it incredible that Windows will list a drive even if there's nothing in it, and additionally consider it one of the flaws of Windows that you have to click on the drive letter to find this out.

For an AIM replacement, I like Adium (look for it on Google or VersionTracker, I'm lazy :) ) which allows you to have multiple tabbed chats going in the same window, like tabbed browsing. This is great if you're talking to several people at once but don't want to clutter your screen.

As to the durability of Macs, if you're anything like me, you'll WANT a new PowerBook long before you NEED one..... ;)

(gosh, the forums are slow....glad I saved this post to Notepad before trying to submit it!)
 
Sadly, the latest version of adium is rather unstable with 10.3.2 on my iBook. Had to go back to iChat (I HATE THAT PROGRAM) :(

A mounted volume has nothing to do with whether or not it is "empty" or not. The file system is still there...

Throw a blank cd-r into your optical drive. if you have the default setup, you will have a cd icon with the label CD ROM (or something like). It is mounted, and a link was created to your desktop.

Mounted just means that the volume (partition or entire drive usually) is ready to be read/used.
 
Just throwing my two cents in as a a recent switcher to the 15" AlPB.

I use my 15" PB at college all the time and have not run into any problems. My school doesn't even support Macs officially as it is heavily influenced by IBM (they are just down the street-that's where they make G5s). I just plugged it into the network and magic it works.

I was running 512 MB of RAM since I got it and never ran into any problems. For Christmas I got another 512 stick, so I am up to 1GB which for me is overkill.

The superdrive is awesome. I make movies frequently now with iMovie for my friends and family as holdiay gifts. The wow factor is high.

I run MS Office as I got it through Amazon for only $99 a while back-and it comes with three licenses so I split the cost with my girlfriend. It is more responsive and 'cleaner' than the windows version and is sufficient for most things needed in College.

Overall, the PB is a wonderful computer, and one that will certainly meet and exceed all of your needs. Hope my story helps a bit.

Good Luck!
 
i hate to dig this thread back up from the dead, but i've thought of a few more questions, and decided against making another thread. anways, here goes.

what are people referring to when the say they would like "springloaded" folders in the dock, etc.?

does safari support tabbed browsing?

when i go to my college's apple store and click the link for recommend stuff, it tells me i should i buy the " APP PowerBook- Enrollment Kit". i have no idea what this is, i try clicking on 'more info' and get nothing, so does anybody know what this might be?

ugh, i always forget the questions i want to ask when i go to make a post.
 
Originally posted by ll cool jh

does safari support tabbed browsing?

Yes!

Originally posted by ll cool jh
when i go to my college's apple store and click the link for recommend stuff, it tells me i should i buy the " APP PowerBook- Enrollment Kit". i have no idea what this is, i try clicking on 'more info' and get nothing, so does anybody know what this might be?

I am pretty sure this is the Apple care plane for the powerbook. It extends you warrenty and phone support. You can purchase Apple care anytime within the first year of your purchase.
 
Originally posted by ll cool jh
i hate to dig this thread back up from the dead, but i've thought of a few more questions, and decided against making another thread. anways, here goes.

what are people referring to when the say they would like "springloaded" folders in the dock, etc.?

does safari support tabbed browsing?

when i go to my college's apple store and click the link for recommend stuff, it tells me i should i buy the " APP PowerBook- Enrollment Kit". i have no idea what this is, i try clicking on 'more info' and get nothing, so does anybody know what this might be?

ugh, i always forget the questions i want to ask when i go to make a post.


Springloaded folders work when you hold the mouse cursor over it, it will open. This makes it very easy to move an object through several folders.
Safari does indeed support tabbed browsing and does it in an interface that is IMHO better than most.
The Enrollment Kit is Apple Care which might be something to think about, that's up to you. I have it and have been very happy.
Good luck with the Powerbook, mine has been an absolute joy to use.
 
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