thanks Weasel, I went into itunes and it says 'will install' by SatNav, but nothing moving. It's been an hour or more. Pressed sync this time, not that I wanted it to back up new phone, wanted an older back up, but anyhow, it didn't stop me from disconnecting and assume if it was in the middle of something it would have asked before I ejected? It updated the ios to '4' too.
Also, out of interest, when I set up as new, before I did restore from back up, the free Apple apps that were on offer to download 'download all', how do I get that back, it doesn't appear this time when opening App store.
may delete SatNav and try again. It's just blacked out at present, ironically like the odd one or two on updating iP4 to ios7.
WiFi keeps going to 3G but when open mail wiFi does appear at the mo, but shows 3G or E in screen.
Also, getting passcode up all the time, as presume thumb isn't working...
thanks again, all help appreciated