Possible to use Express just for iPhones separate from Extreme N?

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  1. meagain macrumors 68030

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    We now have wireless N computers with an N Extreme. But also a G? Tivo, and 2 iPhones. The Express was used as a booster for an old non-N laptop that is now replaced and also to run the iPhones.

    Since the Express is dumbing down the two N computers, is it possible to somehow separate the Express for the sole purpose of running the iPhones/Tivo in a way that would enable the N Extreme to run the N computers at optimum (N)? :eek:

    My husband feels it's not possible, but that's not good enough for me. I bet there's a way. :) Would anyone know of a method to pull this off? Thank you.
     
  2. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

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    That is exactly what I do. I connect the Express to my Airport Extreme via ethernet and give it its own network name (different than the N Extreme wireless network name). The AEBS is set to 5 GHz N-only mode and the Express is set to G-only mode. Works like a charm. I have a N network for my laptops and G network for the iPhone.
     
  3. meagain thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Oh my. :) Now, is the only way to do this is to link the Express & Extreme together via hardwire? Can this be done wirelessly at all? Cuz I think since the main point of getting the Express was to get ANY connectivity in the far end of the house, I believe having the Express near the Extreme might not run the phones & any minimal Tivo wireless transfers.

    So, If I play around with this.... Instead of nameing the network ONE name that rules both devices, you give them each their own network name, and create other settings. I know each one in Airport Utility has an option to 1) Create a wireless network 2) participate in a wds network 3) extend.
    I assume besides the renaming you choose #1 for each device?
    Is there much more to this than what I'm speculating?

    Thanks so much!
     
  4. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    If you don't connect the Express via hardwire, it won't be able to connect to the internet since the Extreme is the one with the connection going outside. You could get a cheapo g router (or another Express) and connect it closer to the Extreme and wire the two like that. You can't extend an n only network to a g network.
     
  5. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

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    What you want is not possible without connecting the Express via ethernet like I described. Otherwise you are back to a mixed mode network where your G devices cause the N base stations to throttle back.

    I do have two AEBS, both in 5GHz wireless mode, with one extending the other. I can hardwire my Express to either one.
     
  6. meagain thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Thanks guys. We do have our old Netgear G router sitting here so perhaps we can use that with the Express boosting it if need be unless it would be a hassle.

    But.... I wonder if it's simply possible to toggle N and N(b/g compatible) on and off as needed thru the Airport Utility. I wonder if by simply switching the router to N (5ghz) would disable the Express when the iPhones aren't needed, then toggle back to N(b/g). (bypassing the Express)... I suppose this would be a PITA but for doing any type of wireless transfer sessions - could work.
    Is this possible to do by merely selecting N in Airport Utility?

    Also, I was told that the N vs. N(b/g) is ONLY an issue for transferring/downloading, etc. and N exclusive has no value when not performing such functions. I disbelieve this cuz surely the Extreme in full N mode is a benefit to our N computers even if just surfing the net - right? maybe more range/oomph?
     
  7. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Actually, you get more range in mixed mode than in 5 GHz n only. You internet connection is most certainly far slower than even g speeds so mixed mode is more than adequate. n only is only faster in machine-to-machine transfers or to something using the gigabit ethernet to the AEBS.
     
  8. meagain thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I understand. I'll play around with separating out the iPhones perhaps this weekend. I plan to do a clean install of Leopard tomorrow so will be transferring data wirelessly for storage. For now, I'll try simply switching to Full N in my airport utility which I assume will bypass the express/g's. (unless someone tells me I'm wrong)....

    Thanks guys! I might be back this weekend if I can't pull off the iPhone separate network thing.
     
  9. danny_w macrumors 601

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    If you were planning on wireless for Time Machine to an AirDisk (disk attached to your AEBS) then forget it. They removed support for that feature.
     

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