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The screen is irrelevant. It all depends on the new antenna design.

Period. :apple:

The screen is the main component of the device. It is the only way you can interact with it. How the hell could it be irrelevant?
 
It's nice, but I would still rather have a larger screen. Making the display sharper is solving a problem that didn't exist. Who thinks their current iPhone display isn't sharp enough?? Anyone ever thought it was a problem?? I'd rather they extended the screen out closer to the top and bottom and made it more widescreen. Or better yet, use the "retina display" but extend the screen as well.

Well, me for one. Lots of web pages are unreadable. It's not that I couldn't make due by zooming web pages and photos, but this is much better.

No, I don't want a larger screen. Extending the screen means extending the phone - surely you don't think there's empty space around the screen inside the phone, do you?
 
Well, me for one. Lots of web pages are unreadable. It's not that I couldn't make due by zooming web pages and photos, but this is much better.

No, I don't want a larger screen. Extending the screen means extending the phone - surely you don't think there's empty space around the screen inside the phone, do you?

But perhaps there is an empty space around the phone in the pocket? :) Why not to use it?
 
The screen is the main component of the device. It is the only way you can interact with it. How the hell could it be irrelevant?

Ok, I was too direct. If the new antenna design does not significantly improve dropped calls then we will know once and for all that at&t's network is responsible for all evil iPhone behavior. Hence, why upgrade when the network still is the issue.

Personally the new screen is nice, ok. However to take advantage of this your phone needs a solid wi-fi or 3G connection. Please, no defending the iPhone as an e-reader, or serious streaming. This is what an iPad is for.

iOS4 on my 3GS is all I will need if reception on the 4 is not significantly improved. I have always been skeptical that everything is always at&t's fault. Although many issues are. My wife's BlackBerry 9700 does not drop any calls on at&t.

So, there was no intent to shame the "Super Screen". But without a better antenna system I know many users who are keeping their 3GS and installing iOS4. "Face Time" is not a deal maker when it is wi-fi only.
I love my 3GS and 4 is evolution, not revolution. Sorry. :apple:
 
Ok, I was too direct. If the new antenna design does not significantly improve dropped calls then we will know once and for all that at&t's network is responsible for all evil iPhone behavior. Hence, why upgrade when the network still is the issue.
Why? The new antenna in no way improves reception.

Personally the new screen is nice, ok. However to take advantage of this your phone needs a solid wi-fi or 3G connection. Please, no defending the iPhone as an e-reader, or serious streaming. This is what an iPad is for.
You need a strong data connection in order to take advantage of the new screen? What?
 
Think viewing HTML5 media? Then again you can have Winnie The Pooh on iBooks. : ) :apple:

You're not making any sense.

I'd say it's very well known that the new iPhone won't have better reception than the old one. Had there been even the slightest improvement Apple would have said something. Also, there's nothing about the new antenna that suggests it will have any better reception.
 
How come every topic I read in this forum, there's always some ignorant poster that just spews misinformation.

Of course no one is going to read websites completely zoomed out. The thing is, even when you zoom in, images and text are going to be crystal clear print quality. The pictures are only zoomed out to show that the display can render even the tinniest of details.

Someone else already destroyed your redicilously thought out MacBook pro argument, so I'm gonna leave that one alone.

Just wait until you see the display in person, everyone that has says photos do not do it justice and that it has to be seen to be believed.
Yes it's not the same pixel density on the macbook, I missed that part. But the point is no one is going to read full webpages on a 3.5 inch screen no matter how high resolution and paper like it is. There's going to be a lot of squinting if you do and that's just un-userfriendly.

Also I said the screen is better, not extraORDINARDLY better like some say. Good not great and reading webpages will only be slightly better. It's no iPad.

Good thing is that the new higher resolution will display pixel perfect on the ipad no more pixel doubling for hideous looking apps. So ipad wins again :)
 
Now, we'll all need teeny tiny needle like fingers to actually interact with the zoomed out web page.

And here is the next most popular accessory for iPhone 4G:

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Available in black and white :D
 
Screen Comparison

I have made a montage of the two screen resolutions. The native 640 x 960 of the iPhone 4 and via a screenshot in 200% the 3GS-Screen - so photoshop did not change the pixels. Here it is:
Amazing quality.
 

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I have made a montage of the two screen resolutions. The native 640 x 960 of the iPhone 4 and via a screenshot in 200% the 3GS-Screen - so photoshop did not change the pixels. Here it is:
Amazing quality.

Nice job christo747. If you view the image at 100% (pixels) it gives a good comparison. Now let's wait for someone to complain that it doesn't look any better when they scale it down to the approximate dimensions of an iPhone. ;)
 
Nice job christo747. If you view the image at 100% (pixels) it gives a good comparison. Now let's wait for someone to complain that it doesn't look any better when they scale it down to the approximate dimensions of an iPhone. ;)

Well, you are exactly right. The image on the forum's page is close to the actual phone screen (or at least much closer than the original 1x1 image) and the difference is hardly noticeable. Now, I do believe that the new screen will be better. Those who had a chance to compare iPhone 3GS and Droid screens knows that better resolution on Droid produces much better images. The real question is whether there is anything to gain with further resolution increases (at given screen size) beyond the Droid's resolution.
 
Well, you are exactly right. The image on the forum's page is close to the actual phone screen (or at least much closer than the original 1x1 image) and the difference is hardly noticeable.

That's because your monitor is not capable of the same resolution! If you're not viewing the screenshots pixel for pixel, the exercise is completely pointless.

Look at that original screenshot — see where it says 'Click to see full resolution screen'? If you didn't click on it, you will have no appreciation for how sharp the new screen is.
 
That's because your monitor is not capable of the same resolution! If you're not viewing the screenshots pixel for pixel, the exercise is completely pointless.

Look at that original screenshot — see where it says 'Click to see full resolution screen'? If you didn't click on it, you will have no appreciation for how sharp the new screen is.

Its pretty easy in fact. Click through for full resolution, then pull out your iPhone and hold it where you normally do. Now move towards or away from your monitor until the monitor image is the same apparent size as your phone display.

Now do you see the difference that pixel density can make?
 
Its pretty easy in fact. Click through for full resolution, then pull out your iPhone and hold it where you normally do. Now move towards or away from your monitor until the monitor image is the same apparent size as your phone display.

Now do you see the difference that pixel density can make?
I hope you are joking with this comparison.
 
That's because your monitor is not capable of the same resolution! If you're not viewing the screenshots pixel for pixel, the exercise is completely pointless.

Look at that original screenshot — see where it says 'Click to see full resolution screen'? If you didn't click on it, you will have no appreciation for how sharp the new screen is.

I agree that viewing it on the monitor is not an exact thing. However, did click on the image and saw the "original". It's not the real thing either. It would be if, iPhone was that big :)
 
I'd say it's very well known that the new iPhone won't have better reception than the old one. Had there been even the slightest improvement Apple would have said something. Also, there's nothing about the new antenna that suggests it will have any better reception.

OK, it's kind of silly to say "very well known" about the performance of the iPhone antenna, given that nobody outside of Apple has reviewed an actual phone and it's ability to make calls and hold a signal.

As for "nothing...suggests it will have any better reception", I would offer that the design suggests it will have better reception. If you don't trust me, here's the WSJ's take:

"A large antenna has a massive impact on how the device interfaces with the network," said Nielsen telecommunications researcher Roger Entner. Mr. Entner, who has been critical of the iPhone's radio technology in the past, said the new design will be a "massive improvement."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...306962622673660.html?mod=WSJ_Tech_LEFTTopNews
 
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