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Those designs are right at the top of my innovative macs list. The imac g4 really stands out from all the other Apple Aio designs with the lampshade. We havent really seen a similar neck build return since in either an Apple Aio or monitor. I see more of a lineage with the cube which is also cool in its own way; cube>>ppc/Intel/AS Mini>>Studio etc.

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The chrome neck was genius, amazing engineering. I suppose it fell out of fashion as soon as monitors transitioned to widescreen 20+ inch. Wouldn't be practical anymore, unless huge display panels could be ultra-lightweight.

Yeah, I appreciate the Cube lineage to Mac Studio. But it's a shame the Cube, 22 years older, can be upgraded and repaired, while the Studio will eventually end up as an expensive paperweight.
 
The chrome neck was genius, amazing engineering. I suppose it fell out of fashion as soon as monitors transitioned to widescreen 20+ inch. Wouldn't be practical anymore, unless huge display panels could be ultra-lightweight.

I often thought the chrome neck could have been offered in anodized bright hues as a transitional olive branch from the departure of the translucent, joyous jewel/fruit hues of its predecessor. (Think the finish on 5th gen of iPod nanos.)

The lukewarm feelings I had for the iMac G4 were probably not helped by how I’ve never been fond of plain chrome or chrome-like finishes on much of anything, and “chrome” gloss hasn’t really been a fixture of Apple products before or since that brief iMac G4/iPod 1G-2G-etc. period, particularly ca. late 2001–2004.

Yeah, I appreciate the Cube lineage to Mac Studio. But it's a shame the Cube, 22 years older, can be upgraded and repaired, while the Studio will eventually end up as an expensive paperweight.

Indeed. Indeed.
 
I often thought the chrome neck could have been offered in anodized bright hues as a transitional olive branch from the departure of the translucent, joyous jewel/fruit hues of its predecessor. (Think the finish on 5th gen of iPod nanos.)

The lukewarm feelings I had for the iMac G4 were probably not helped by how I’ve never been fond of plain chrome or chrome-like finishes on much of anything, and “chrome” gloss hasn’t really been a fixture of Apple products before or since that brief iMac G4/iPod 1G-2G-etc. period, particularly ca. late 2001–2004.
On the opposite end of the scale, the iMac G4, or as I've nicknamed it "The Sunflower", is my favourite looking Mac! There is something about the design of it that looked/looks stunning to me. I have the 20" model, which I know some people don't like as much because it's "not proportionate", but the giant 1680x1050 screen just adds to the fun of using it!

I do have to wipe down the handle from time to time, as dust and fingerprints show very easily on it, however there aren't any scratches on it, which just like the O.G. iPods, is what makes the chrome look tacky. I can see why you don't like the chrome look though, I feel the same about glossy plastic (in most cases, there is an exception for the unibody MacBook).
 
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The 3:2 aspect ratio of the 15.2” PowerBooks was awesome. It was a shame the 15.4” MBP ditched it — and never got 1920×1200 to boot, even though that was first introduced in 2003.

Glad to see Huawei (MateBook/MateView) and Microsoft (Surface) having picked up 3:2.
 
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The chrome neck was genius, amazing engineering. I suppose it fell out of fashion as soon as monitors transitioned to widescreen 20+ inch. Wouldn't be practical anymore, unless huge display panels could be ultra-lightweight.

Yeah, I appreciate the Cube lineage to Mac Studio. But it's a shame the Cube, 22 years older, can be upgraded and repaired, while the Studio will eventually end up as an expensive paperweight.
Ewaste concerns always remind me of the movie WALL-E. Mountains and mountains of old studios and other tech stacked higher than the buildings they were once used in. It seems like an aio design that could be successful with modern ultra thin monitors nowadays. I think it would have been really neat to see a modern brushed colored aluminum variant of that design on the current AS imac.
 
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On the opposite end of the scale, the iMac G4, or as I've nicknamed it "The Sunflower", is my favourite looking Mac! There is something about the design of it that looked/looks stunning to me. I have the 20" model, which I know some people don't like as much because it's "not proportionate", but the giant 1680x1050 screen just adds to the fun of using it!

I believe the nickname “the Sunflower Mac” goes all the way back to 2002, from the mouth of Jobs himself. Which, as a gardener of sunflowers, makes me wonder whether he ever once planted a sunflower during his lifetime.

I do have to wipe down the handle from time to time, as dust and fingerprints show very easily on it, however there aren't any scratches on it, which just like the O.G. iPods, is what makes the chrome look tacky.

I’m on team “chrome on anything is tacky” — which I guess is also why I don’t get why people (mostly dudes) get excited at some old car “with all that chrome” on it. The underside of iPods were notorious for scratches and revealing everything to make contact with it. My 1970s road bicycle has some exposed chrome on the rear drops and the fork, which I don’t care for, but by the same token, I also don’t have much of a motivation to do anything about it.

I can see why you don't like the chrome look though, I feel the same about glossy plastic (in most cases, there is an exception for the unibody MacBook).

For the “ice” iBook G3s, which a company out there had a method for removing the white on the inside of the plastic and then coating with a vivid hue, those were kind of neat. But yah, glossy plastic and glossy polycarbonate fall into the same general aesthetic camp for me as chrome: both showcase imperfections, usage, and damage like little else. Glossy enamels, such as on metal, are neat to my eyes, but chrome and glossy plastic are a general “no thanks” to my mind.
 
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It also bugged me a bit how the 14" didn't have a higher screen resolution than the 12".
Yeah, if it had a 14.1” 1400×1050 LCD that would be bananas. That LCD would also be a great upgrade for the Pismo if compatible.
 
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Ewaste concerns always remind me of the movie WALL-E. Mountains and mountains of old studios and other tech stacked higher than the buildings they were once used in. It seems like an aio design that could be successful with modern ultra thin monitors nowadays. I think it would have been really neat to see a modern brushed colored aluminum variant of that design on the current AS imac.
That would be the future we would live in, if not for the fact that aluminium is highly recyclable.
I think in Apple's vision, there should be no M1 Mac Studios left in existence by about 2030, as they should all be recycled to make an M4/M5 studio.
 
I'd like to think that to be true. Of course there will be those of us who have figured out how to bodge together repairs of "unrepairable" macs by that time I'd think It is an interesting thought to contemplate what we would need the processor power of a future M5 that an M1 could not do as Im DDing a core2dup mbp to post this. Maybe its not so much cpu power as it will be compliance with future standards. Holodeck maybe? :)
 
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if not for the fact that aluminium is highly recyclable.
Aluminum may be, but everything else isn't. And in the hypothetical world where it is, it still requires a lot of energy to recycle things over and over, which could be completely avoidable through a Framework-style (as many issues I have with the company, the basic idea isn't one of them) system of reusing the same, open standard chassis and board design for years so lobo swaps if needed can be made.
I'd think It is an interesting thought to contemplate what we would need the processor power of a future M5 that an M1 could not do
I think future improvements will all be focused on energy efficiency, with single digit percentage speed changes but more drastic battery life improvements -- or, on desktops, more headroom to raise the power limit to turn that cooler running CPU into a hotter one that does more work than current hot ones.
Personally, I'm interested in some more esoteric stuff in processor design -- clockless cores, gallium transistors, maybe dabbling in a little VLIW as an experiment. Libre-SoC's Simple-V instruction set extension seems awesome and combining it with the former two would be my ideal processor.​
 
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The chrome neck was genius, amazing engineering. I suppose it fell out of fashion as soon as monitors transitioned to widescreen 20+ inch. Wouldn't be practical anymore, unless huge display panels could be ultra-lightweight.

Indeed, the 17" is 22.8 pounds, the 20" is 40.1. I've heard the 20" actually has a counterweight inside the base for stability, but, never having owned one (I have a mongrel 15" with a 17" display) I can't say for certain.
 
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Indeed, the 17" is 22.8 pounds, the 20" is 40.1. I've heard the 20" actually has a counterweight inside the base for stability, but, never having owned one (I have a mongrel 15" with a 17" display) I can't say for certain.
Most certainly, I thought all the models have some form of counterweight in them. I think Jony Ive eventually realised that physics was not on his side – and it would be more elegant to have a computer than didn't weigh more than a stack of bricks.
 
…which could be completely avoidable through a Framework-style (as many issues I have with the company, the basic idea isn't one of them) system…​

I’m sincerely interested to know more about the other issues you have with the Frame.work model/company/approach, as modular and reusable components are otherwise a tremendous positive. Cheers.
 
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Certainly, I applaud the basic concept of modular laptops. I don't have any problem with that, and if I were going to make laptops of my own they would be too, but on the corporate side, besides simply leaving the option to replace parts in the hands of the end user and using recycled cardboard and I guess aluminum (even though that's nothing to applaud -- the overwhelming majority of aluminum is recycled), their main form of pollution reduction is in carbon capture, itself already a questionable practice with regards to energy use but the company they partner with, Running Tide, has... a reputation on top of that.

On the actual laptop side, I guess the 13" is fine, besides them wanting you to replace the entire top cover it's alright. Also, their business model being the sale of parts means that their whole low waste thing is kinda eroded a bit by encouraging users buy new mainboards each generation, easily the least environmentally friendly part of the whole equation.

However I have significant issues with the 16" -- particularly in the proprietary PCIe cartridge; instead of using the already existent MXM standard that people already have cards for, this company whose stated goal is moving the whole computer industry in their direction is using a cartridge form factor that literally only works on this one specific chassis.
This means AIBs need to stock more and more SKUs exponentially for the same cards and ultimately discourages more widespread adoption of this particular graphics card format, where if they'd just put their muscle behind MXM to revive it there would be lots of pre-existing cards to re-use, parts wouldn't depend on the 16" remaining the same exact form factor for the next 20 years, and the consumer would have a lot more choice rather than being locked into FW's cards or homemade ones. Is MXM dying? Maybe, but so is SO-DIMM. That doesn't seem to be a barrier.
And there was an RX 6600 MXM card that ran just as fast as the desktop card would if set to 75 W max, so it's not like it's saturated. Or saturatable, since it's just a PCIe form factor like this new cartridge.
The keyboard clip system and rearrangeable panels seems neat but the side panels that I remember seeing demonstrated all seem to be just flash that in some cases are just more things that can break.

Personally, this seeming attempt at vendor lock-in is a huge red flag coming from a company I was all in on just a few months ago and was waiting on an ARM offering from. The fact they so much as let the idea float around long enough to get prototyped is a concerning look at where their minds are for a company labelled the "anti-Apple"; this sure seems to be their 5-pointed star screw or proprietary battery.

And this is a personal taste issue, but I'd have much rather they gone for 15" 3:2, but that's again just my own tastes speaking and I can't fault them for going with 16" 16:10.

Of course, criticism is cheap; can I do any better? Well, time would tell if any of these things would pan out the way I envision them but I set out a proposal, attached below, for how I would run a company that produces computers in a proactively environmentally conscious way, taking into consideration that the very nature of the industry isn't very green in and of itself.​
 

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However I have significant issues with the 16" -- particularly in the proprietary PCIe cartridge; instead of using the already existent MXM standard that people already have cards for, this company whose stated goal is moving the whole computer industry in their direction is using a cartridge form factor that literally only works on this one specific chassis.​
This may sound a bit boneheaded but I'm going to ask anyway.

What's stopping someone from making an expansion bay module that just breaks out to a PCIe slot?
 
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What's stopping someone from making an expansion bay module that just breaks out to a PCIe slot?
Nothing, it would be a passive adapter I'm pretty sure, but that's kind of a hacky solution to a problem that shouldn't exist. I guess the kind of thing the Framework community would enjoy, but the Type-C ports were always Thunderbolt so it's not something this new module allows the development of.​
 
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