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Davy.Shalom
macrumors 6502
no, just non budget guitars
I love my Ric...its been in the family since the day my uncle bought it in 1967. This pic isn't it, but it is fireglo, and it is in very good condition. I dunno, I don't think its a budget guitar, but say what you will.
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Mike Teezie
macrumors 68020
Nice! I've always wanted a Ric. Either fireglo, or a nice black one.
My next purchase is either the Masterbuilt "Black One", or a Gibson Custom Shop ES335. I am loving my Epi dot.
63dot
macrumors 603
Shot this today,
Very nice, that looks like a '58-'60 Les Paul Model- is it a relic'ed, re-issue Les Paul?
Gibson first reissued the '50s Les Paul Customs in '69, the Les Paul Standards in the '70s and dubbed "the '58s", and then again in the 90s-present as official reissues. The former were very similar to the 1950s Gibsons and the most recent ones are the closest to the original ones. Oddly, the ones from the '70s which looked least like their 1950s counterparts actually shared the same serial numbers as Gibson went through an ownership change. The ones today are close but didn't make the same mistake using the same serial numbers. If the 70s ones had used the exact same specs, only the serial number on the pots would tell the difference. Useless trivia.
Very nice, that looks like a '58-'60 - is it a relic'ed Les Paul?
Gibson first reissued the '50s Les Paul Customs in '69, the Les Paul Standards in the '70s and dubbed "the '58s", and then again in the 90s-present as official reissues. The former were very similar to the 1950s Gibsons and the most recent ones are the closest to the original ones. Oddly, the ones from the '70s which looked least like their 1950s counterparts actually shared the same serial numbers as Gibson went through an ownership change. The ones today are close but didn't make the same mistake using the same serial numbers. If the 70s ones had used the exact same specs, only the serial number on the pots would tell the difference. Useless trivia.
Thanks, it's a 2007 1958 reissue, to which I have upgrade all the parts to be vintage accurate and replaced the inlays with cellulose nitrate, sourced from the same original Italian manufacturer from the 50's for Gibson.
Your trivia is good, but a little inaccurate. In the 60's gibson switched many components on their guitars (aside from switch the entire shape of the Les Paul which is now called the SG), so the 70's ones also have wired chrome abr bridges, larger headstocks, different inlay material, more durable pore filler and fade resistant dyes used in the finish. As well as different pickups and the plastic parts were all manufactured differently. (this period was known as the "norlin era" because of the Norlin company who bought them out)
There are still many inaccuracies but the current reissues are some of the best production guitars on the market. I spent nearly a grand replacing only hardware on mine, and to most it looks the same as the day I bought it, but to a select few, it "resembles a burst" and most importantly, to ME it resembles my perfect guitar.
63dot
macrumors 603
Thanks, it's a 2007 1958 reissue, to which I have upgrade all the parts to be vintage accurate and replaced the inlays with cellulose nitrate, sourced from the same original Italian manufacturer from the 50's for Gibson.
Your trivia is good, but a little inaccurate. In the 60's gibson switched many components on their guitars (aside from switch the entire shape of the Les Paul which is now called the SG), so the 70's ones also have wired chrome abr bridges, larger headstocks, different inlay material, more durable pore filler and fade resistant dyes used in the finish. As well as different pickups and the plastic parts were all manufactured differently. (this period was known as the "norlin era" because of the Norlin company who bought them out)
There are still many inaccuracies but the current reissues are some of the best production guitars on the market. I spent nearly a grand replacing only hardware on mine, and to most it looks the same as the day I bought it, but to a select few, it "resembles a burst" and most importantly, to ME it resembles my perfect guitar.
You are right on the 60's Les Pauls, they were similar to SGs as we collectors know. The original single cutaway shape came back in '68-'69 much like yours (Duchossoir, George Gruhn, Norm's Rare Guitars). The one below is a '69 Les Paul Custom.
I got a PAF humbucker which I should have never parted with. If I had only known but back in the '80s, they maybe brought only $100 bucks. Today, a real PAF goes for much more.
Your guitar is almost dead on. Are those real PAFs or Duncan Seth Lovers? Just curious. Anyway, great job on the 'burst.
One thing I don't know, and you may know. Did Gibson make dual black, and dual creme humbuckers only in '58? Or was there a zebra humbucker in '58, too? My PAF was dual black, the more common.
Also, were the necks the same on all three years? Or was '60 a little thinner? I have only seen '59s when I have seen the old Les Paul Models with little or no flame.
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My pups are bursbuckers with DMC V.1.5 covers
Regarding PAF color it goes as such.
The first year, 1957, they were all black
Then creme colored bobbins were introduced (after the supplier ran out of black)
1958 through 1960 are where the zebras and double white (the most rare) are most common, however some examples have been found as late as 1965.
Today,PAF's go for approx 5 grand each. A good set of double whites can run up to 20k for the pair. Supply and demand
Regarding PAF color it goes as such.
The first year, 1957, they were all black
Then creme colored bobbins were introduced (after the supplier ran out of black)
1958 through 1960 are where the zebras and double white (the most rare) are most common, however some examples have been found as late as 1965.
Today,PAF's go for approx 5 grand each. A good set of double whites can run up to 20k for the pair. Supply and demand
63dot
macrumors 603
My God, man, I am going to be sick.
Somewhere back in my posts (#375) where I was showing off Fenders, the 335 copy guitar that got in one of those pictures has a double black PAF, sans sticker if I remember correctly, unfortunately, but from a '61 Les Paul/SG. There was residue I think from the small rectangular sticker that was the patent applied for sticker and the pup didn't have that much output so I paired it with a '59 Duncan. I was into harder rock then so I used DiMarzio SuperDistortions, Duncan JBs, or Jackson/Charvel ceramic humbuckers. These days anymore, I much prefer the warmer sound of older humbuckers or ones not designed for metal. That being said, I do get into those high output moods and nothing sings like a guitar with EMG 81s through a Marshall.
I have a couple of theories I worked through with dealers/collectors/enthusiasts about my old Gibson pickup.
Either the sticker said something else, either it was a left over PAF since it was still just 1961, or it was some one-of-a-kind prototype (which I truly hope but doubt, but who knows?
). I have sometimes seen strange things in books concerning Gibson especially, but never in person like an F-hole Les Paul 335-like guitar or Les Paul acoustic dreadnaught. I like the offset 335 looking Les Paul and I wish I could see one in person.
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Mike Teezie
macrumors 68020
Thanks, it's a 2007 1958 reissue, to which I have upgrade all the parts to be vintage accurate and replaced the inlays with cellulose nitrate, sourced from the same original Italian manufacturer from the 50's for Gibson.
Your trivia is good, but a little inaccurate. In the 60's gibson switched many components on their guitars (aside from switch the entire shape of the Les Paul which is now called the SG), so the 70's ones also have wired chrome abr bridges, larger headstocks, different inlay material, more durable pore filler and fade resistant dyes used in the finish. As well as different pickups and the plastic parts were all manufactured differently. (this period was known as the "norlin era" because of the Norlin company who bought them out)
There are still many inaccuracies but the current reissues are some of the best production guitars on the market. I spent nearly a grand replacing only hardware on mine, and to most it looks the same as the day I bought it, but to a select few, it "resembles a burst" and most importantly, to ME it resembles my perfect guitar.
Damn it man, it IS close. That is such a sweet guitar. Those new inlays look fantastic, much better than the ones in my '03 R6. I'd love to see some close up shots up those bad boys. Is that the original Tune-O-Matic and tailpiece? I remember mine dulling very, very quickly - which offered a more authentic look.
63dot said:
The Les Paul with the f-holes is the Florentine. I used to want one so bad back in the day. Here's a link to one, check it out.
63dot
macrumors 603
The ones you posted, or the ones I added in my previous post are probably considerably lighter than the Custom I had or the Standards a couple of posters here pictured. When I was in a band back in 1991, one friend of mine told the rest of the band he wanted a Les Paul with F-Holes, either like your pictures or mine, and we all told him he was looking at the ES-335 or ES-175 or a variant of those likely two f-holed Gibsons. He swore the headstock said "Les Paul" and none of us believed him.
Years later, I showed him some of the Les Paul Signature hollowbody pictures, some more traditional Les Paul shaped guitars with f-holes like your pictures, and the Les Paul dreadnaught steel string acoustic and he was blown away. I also showed him the Les Paul bass, which by then started showing up in Epi models at Guitar Center.
The next Les Paul I want to check out is their Robot Les Paul Studio. I am a computer geek/technology geek so something like that is a dream come true. Not cheap though with a $3999 list price and a street price about a grand lower.
And the Les Paul doesn't even have to be a Gibson or Epiphone. I also love this obvious Les Paul copy model, called the Eclipse and made by ESP and the more affordable LTD (a few years ago). Serious lust for the LTD one since it listed for under a grand and had Seymour Duncan pickups. I like the f-hole on one side countered with three knobs in a row. Very nice look.
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Mike Teezie
macrumors 68020
Yeah, I had the same reaction when I saw one at Rudy's in NYC years ago.
The first thing that struck me about my R6 when I took it out of the case was how light it was for a non weight-relieved Les Paul. Average Standards weigh in around 9-10 pounds, with some of those 80's beasts weighing even more. Mine is 7.8, which is pretty light.
63dot
macrumors 603
My 1980 Les Paul Custom was too heavy and probably in there with the worst Les Pauls ever made by Gibson. But the good thing is I got it for $550 used fifteen years ago. The really old Les Pauls were beyond reach and the newer ones of much better fit/quality were also somewhat more expensive. A 1969 Les Paul there was $1500 back then and a very clean early 1990s Standard, barely used, was $1000, so paying $550 was the natural thing to do having very little cash.
Thanks man...
THe bridge is a wireless repro part.
Here you go
I also did the same to my R7 goldtop
this is after I dyed them a bit to simulate years of UV light exposure
63dot
macrumors 603
Wow. ^^^^^^ You are really a Les Paul enthusiast.
I would play them, and know which ones I liked, and could usually spot the older ones due to some characteristics, but I had no idea that people went so far as to replace the inlays and age them so carefully. I also didn't know that there was a wireless bridge and I always wondered what that wire was for.
You could probably fool vintage dealers...you got serious skills.
I knew a guy who would get parts from US and Japanese vintage strat reissues and put the appropriate parts together, get an "L" backplate in which some were real and some were very accurate aftermarket ones, sand the neck and headstock, refinish it to look old, and get the "Fender" sticker, real ones, and place them over the finish as was the case through 1967.
It could fool almost anybody but he sold them as replicas only, but made from genuine Fender parts and players would come from all around to get one of his customized strats. He had Seymour Duncan, a good friend of his in Santa Barbara, wind some period pickups for him and this was before the antiquity series. Some of the L backplates were not real, and of course the pickups were those Duncans. Really cool stuff and tons of fun watching those guitars come together. The guitars, pretty much dead on replicas of '59-63 strats had shiny new bodies though and it wasn't an attempt to make it a fully relic'd guitar like Fender's Custom shop stuff.
I would play them, and know which ones I liked, and could usually spot the older ones due to some characteristics, but I had no idea that people went so far as to replace the inlays and age them so carefully. I also didn't know that there was a wireless bridge and I always wondered what that wire was for.
You could probably fool vintage dealers...you got serious skills.
I knew a guy who would get parts from US and Japanese vintage strat reissues and put the appropriate parts together, get an "L" backplate in which some were real and some were very accurate aftermarket ones, sand the neck and headstock, refinish it to look old, and get the "Fender" sticker, real ones, and place them over the finish as was the case through 1967.
It could fool almost anybody but he sold them as replicas only, but made from genuine Fender parts and players would come from all around to get one of his customized strats. He had Seymour Duncan, a good friend of his in Santa Barbara, wind some period pickups for him and this was before the antiquity series. Some of the L backplates were not real, and of course the pickups were those Duncans. Really cool stuff and tons of fun watching those guitars come together. The guitars, pretty much dead on replicas of '59-63 strats had shiny new bodies though and it wasn't an attempt to make it a fully relic'd guitar like Fender's Custom shop stuff.
Mike Teezie
macrumors 68020
Wow, extremely beautiful. Thanks a ton for posting all of those high quality images!
Thanks, and yes, I am what you could call OCD over vintage Les Pauls
Thank you for the compliments, and no worries, I'm glad to post them
robindahlia789
macrumors regular
ibanez s prestige
sorry i don't have an actual picture of it, but i got it for a steal off of ebay. sold my 7 string schecter and basically got the ibanez for free
sorry i don't have an actual picture of it, but i got it for a steal off of ebay. sold my 7 string schecter and basically got the ibanez for free
63dot
macrumors 603
sorry i don't have an actual picture of it, but i got it for a steal off of ebay. sold my 7 string schecter and basically got the ibanez for free
From Les Paul to Shred Paul (I love "Paul" Gilbert and any RG or similar type Ibanez metal guitar) with wizard and prestige necks. Gotta love that fast, thin neck. Love the JS, too as I have said only five times.
sangosimo
Guest
sorry i don't have an actual picture of it, but i got it for a steal off of ebay. sold my 7 string schecter and basically got the ibanez for free
I lust for that guitar. s-shape and 24 frets.
I've been watching this thread for a while, thought I'd finally post.
First off, my absolute baby.
Secondly, my first bass, doesn't see a lot of stage action nowadays.
And lastly, the most recent picture of a project of mine. This picture is actually a little old, I'll try and remember to get a more up to date photo.
It's swamp ash, with maple neck and fretboard. (Or rather, will be.)
First off, my absolute baby.
Secondly, my first bass, doesn't see a lot of stage action nowadays.
And lastly, the most recent picture of a project of mine. This picture is actually a little old, I'll try and remember to get a more up to date photo.
It's swamp ash, with maple neck and fretboard. (Or rather, will be.
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