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It's amazing how many people jump to Apple's defence.

The change to the 'Power' button is not good.

Apple should give us the option of deciding what we want to do by adding a feature 'Power Button' in System Preferences.

You know?
Actually letting users decide what they want to do.
Make Apple users happy. Give Apple users choices.

But, it always seems that it's 'Apple way - or no way'
 
It's amazing how many people jump to Apple's defence.

The change to the 'Power' button is not good.

Apple should give us the option of deciding what we want to do by adding a feature 'Power Button' in System Preferences.

You know?
Actually letting users decide what they want to do.
Make Apple users happy. Give Apple users choices.

But, it always seems that it's 'Apple way - or no way'

You can create your own shortcut key combinations for many operations, but things like powering down really are special cases. A support engineer needs to be sure that when he asks you to press and hold the power key for two seconds, a 'normally' functioning machine should exhibit expected behaviour.

Apple wouldn't have changed this behaviour without good reason, e.g. an appraisal of how most people use their machines.
 
So there's no way to fix this yet? I say fix because this has turned actually useful functionality (for me) to something which is literally useless to everyone wielding a laptop.

I mean when am I ever going to want to put my laptop into sleep mode while also keeping the lid open? It makes no sense.

I used to use it for occasionally rebooting, now I just end up accidentally sleeping my laptop (dropping wireless connections and suspending tasks) whenever slightly too unprecisely hitting the backspace key.
 
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This is horrible. I am still using my 2009 MBP and was really looking forward to my new rMBP next week. First thing I was going to do was change the behaviour of the power button to become a forward delete button which I use all the time in Parallels. Now this stupid sleep function doesn't seem like it can be bypassed. I hope someone can figure out how to from terminal or something.
 
You can create your own shortcut key combinations for many operations, but things like powering down really are special cases. A support engineer needs to be sure that when he asks you to press and hold the power key for two seconds, a 'normally' functioning machine should exhibit expected behaviour.

Apple wouldn't have changed this behaviour without good reason, e.g. an appraisal of how most people use their machines.

My machine does not exhibit this expected behavior anyway. I can't press and hold the power button because the screen goes black immediately as soon as I press it. I don't know if it's a machine specific thing or what. Apple's appraisal of how most people use their machines must be:

1. User presses power button, intending for their machine to go to sleep
2. Shutdown dialog comes up
3. User panics and says, "Oh my God oh my God what do I do?"
4. User presses return hoping for the dialog box to go away
5. Machine shuts down
6. User cannot figure out how to turn their machine back on
7. User calls Apple support

This new power button behavior is the result.

On a side note, Mavericks takes way too long to go to sleep. In ML sleep was immediate, now it takes around 30 seconds. My guess is that it's related to memory compression.

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This is horrible. I am still using my 2009 MBP and was really looking forward to my new rMBP next week. First thing I was going to do was change the behaviour of the power button to become a forward delete button which I use all the time in Parallels. Now this stupid sleep function doesn't seem like it can be bypassed. I hope someone can figure out how to from terminal or something.
How do you do that? I can try it in mavericks and see if it overrides the behavior.
 
My machine does not exhibit this expected behavior anyway. I can't press and hold the power button because the screen goes black immediately as soon as I press it.
Did you not see my own post to this very thread where I describe the exact same problem?

I also explained that I found the reason for this aberrant behavior, at least on my machine :) -- I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which, as it turns out, causes this, even if you have it running but haven't even defined any key remaps. We'll have to wait for the 9.0.0 update, or alternatively, if you're willing to run a beta version, the release notes for 8.90.4 suggest that it's been fixed on that version (I haven't tried it).

-- Nathan
 
Did you not see my own post to this very thread where I describe the exact same problem?

I also explained that I found the reason for this aberrant behavior, at least on my machine :) -- I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which, as it turns out, causes this, even if you have it running but haven't even defined any key remaps. We'll have to wait for the 9.0.0 update, or alternatively, if you're willing to run a beta version, the release notes for 8.90.4 suggest that it's been fixed on that version (I haven't tried it).

-- Nathan

Don't know how I missed that. I actually forgot I even use that app.
 
Did you not see my own post to this very thread where I describe the exact same problem?

I also explained that I found the reason for this aberrant behavior, at least on my machine :) -- I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which, as it turns out, causes this, even if you have it running but haven't even defined any key remaps. We'll have to wait for the 9.0.0 update, or alternatively, if you're willing to run a beta version, the release notes for 8.90.4 suggest that it's been fixed on that version (I haven't tried it).

-- Nathan
I have the same behaviour (MBP late 2009), and never heard of that key remap thing.
 
Did you not see my own post to this very thread where I describe the exact same problem?

I also explained that I found the reason for this aberrant behavior, at least on my machine :) -- I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which, as it turns out, causes this, even if you have it running but haven't even defined any key remaps. We'll have to wait for the 9.0.0 update, or alternatively, if you're willing to run a beta version, the release notes for 8.90.4 suggest that it's been fixed on that version (I haven't tried it).

-- Nathan

thanks for the heads up mate, i use that app too. Now i know that was creating the problem.
 
Anyone else think they did this to make it similiar to how it works on iOS?

Also, personally doesnt bother me.
 
I guess no one at Apple ever accidentally presses the power button. Now I have no choice but to figure out the wake from sleep problem on my wife's MBP.
 
I guess no one at Apple ever accidentally presses the power button. Now I have no choice but to figure out the wake from sleep problem on my wife's MBP.

I know right, so frustrating. This should be an option at the very least, something like "What happens when I press the power button?" in the energy options.
 
Apple probably did this because flash-based computers never need to be shut down; they can just go into indefinite sleep mode until you use it again. All MacBooks are now flash with the exception of the 13" non-retina MacBook Pro, which will probably be killed off in a year.

At least, that's my theory.
On a side note, Mavericks takes way too long to go to sleep. In ML sleep was immediate, now it takes around 30 seconds. My guess is that it's related to memory compression.
This is the most annoying thing about Mavericks. I have a 7200 RPM HDD, if I were to move my 15" MBP before the computer fully falls asleep, I can hear the HDD clicking violently. Not good. Now I have to wait unto 40 seconds for the sleep indicator light to start "breathing" before I can move my computer - very annoying when class is over and I'm just sitting in my seat like a dumb ass waiting for it to sleep.
 
I think the new pwr. button behavior is good - I guess when it works correctly. tap to sleep, hold to shut down. And the sleep is immediate on my SSD MBP...
 
Then i don't see what everyones problem is, it's much better under mavericks
How is it better? Why would you want to sleep your MBP with the lid open? And, even if you do, just go to the Apple button and click on sleep. The amount of times people want to do that is not enough to change the power button behaviour. And I guess you do not own a rMBP or Air.. the Power Button is where the Eject button was on regular MBPs.. now imagine hitting it in the middle of something.. not very nice, is it?
 
How is it better? Why would you want to sleep your MBP with the lid open? And, even if you do, just go to the Apple button and click on sleep. The amount of times people want to do that is not enough to change the power button behaviour. And I guess you do not own a rMBP or Air.. the Power Button is where the Eject button was on regular MBPs.. now imagine hitting it in the middle of something.. not very nice, is it?

It's been mentioned numerous times on this thread already. Hitting the power button does not put your MBP to sleep. It turns off the screen. Big difference.
 
It's been mentioned numerous times on this thread already. Hitting the power button does not put your MBP to sleep. It turns off the screen. Big difference.
So turning the backlight all the way down was not enough? And if it's just screen off, why does video/audio stop? Why does it ask for my password when I turn it on again? How is that any less annoying than sleeping without you wanting it to?
 
How is it better? Why would you want to sleep your MBP with the lid open? And, even if you do, just go to the Apple button and click on sleep. The amount of times people want to do that is not enough to change the power button behaviour. And I guess you do not own a rMBP or Air.. the Power Button is where the Eject button was on regular MBPs.. now imagine hitting it in the middle of something.. not very nice, is it?

You clearly don't own a mac at all then do you. Three of my macs don't sleep when power is pressed on 10.9 it's the same as pressing shift Ctrl eject on the older macs
 
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