Power5+ to hit 3GHz

[mim]

Originally posted by cheadley
That's right. To clarify, remember that the Power4 chips that the 970 are based on are actually running with SLOWER Ghz ratings than the 970. Although I'm not an engineer, it's obvious from reading IBM's website concerning the differences between the Power4 and the 970 that the Power series intentionally runs slower than the 970 and future derivations. The reason is that the Power series is intended for servers and has greater error checking and general stability. Even though the Power5 will have a somewhat "slow" rating compared to what we're hoping for, its derivations made for Apple will be MUCH faster.

Despite that IBM seem very conservative with their projected frequency ratings (I'm remembering the 970 was going to top out at 1.8Ghz, not start there...) the Power series chips have very thick oxide gates to increase their stability (fractionally) - this also reduces the frequency they can run at.

I believe the 970 uses cow'ide gates instead, and while not as good as raw'ide gates, should do us just fine.

 

[hasapi]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What's a GHz? I'm an Apple User.

Originally posted by mvc
Or to paraphrase Greg Joswiak "ASCII Purple is not going in a PowerBook anytime soon…"

Good One!

What's important is that the desktop derivatives 9xx series chips, you know the ones Apple is using?, they are developed quite closely, and since they will not be server chips designed for speed instead of reliability, the 980 for instance will scale from 3G+. Yee Ha!

 

[silvergunuk]

Power 6 To Have Altivec

Recently I heard from somwhere that the power 6 will have 3 Altivec pipelines. Will this perhaps be used by Apple for servers and Renderfarms? Seeing as Pixar just annouced they moved over to Apple, maybe this is true

 

[jaedreth]

Spart

Are we there yet?

Jaedreth

 

[shen]

bill history

gee, bill claims he didn't make the 640k comment? what a surprise for a guy who released two different books titled "the road ahead." the first, if i recall, downplayed the internet as a toy for gamers.

the current version, it should be noted, says "the internet is central to everything we do."

yeah, i trust him.

 

[DakotaGuy]

Originally posted by Mr.Hey
if this is true ......Whoo Hoo!
Apple using IBM CPUs was one of the best decision Apple ever made.


edit: whoa that was freaky he said what I said

Actually Apple has been using IBM CPU's for years. Only the G4 was a Motorola only chip. IBM and Motorola have been suppiers to Apple since they began with PowerPC processors. I think the first PowerPC in a Mac, the 601, was an IBM chip.

 

[eatme8888]

Who cares? The Power5 is not the IBM 970 or IBM 980. The Power5 is not a PPC processor.

Who cares what it's going to do? It doesn't matter to Mac users one bit.

Slow news day.

 

[daveL]

Originally posted by eatme8888
Who cares? The Power5 is not the IBM 970 or IBM 980. The Power5 is not a PPC processor.

Who cares what it's going to do? It doesn't matter to Mac users one bit.

Slow news day.

I suggest you go back in the archives and read the relevent posts on this topic. In short, the 970 *is* derived from the Power4 and the 980, or whatever they choose to call it, *will be* derived from the Power5. Furthermore, the 980 development is occuring in parallel with the Power5.

 

[eatme8888]

The IBM 970 is nothing like the Power4. Anyone who thinks it is doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.

The IBM 980 is nothing like the Power4 or the Power5.

Get your facts straight.

 

[shen]

heh!

here, get an education

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/dec2002/newproductfocus2.html

http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/02q2/ppc970/ppc970-1.html

.....putz.

 

[daveL]

Originally posted by eatme8888
The IBM 970 is nothing like the Power4. Anyone who thinks it is doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.

The IBM 980 is nothing like the Power4 or the Power5.

Get your facts straight.

Well, we've established, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you don't know what you're talking about. So, there's no need to waste anymore time on you. Bye.